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Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

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    #8582
    dublin12367
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭dublin12367


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122024331#Comment_122024331

    Just had a read. Shouldn’t cause any disruption on services. Seat count for W23 was just under 14.3m.



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    #8583
    LiamaDelta
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122003487#Comment_122003487
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122003487#Comment_122003487

    Apparently it was about 40 minutes on Monday at 10am in T1. A significant amount of secondary checking and swabbing etc. may have been causing the delays.



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    #8584
    Dublinflyer
    Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Dublinflyer


    Regardless of your opinion about Ulick McEvaddy this is an interesting listen. I still think it's all about pumping up the price of the land but still he is very convincing to listen too.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/04/18/third-passenger-terminal-at-dublin-airport-will-be-built-eventually-says-ulick-mcevaddy/



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    #8585
    prunudo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,135 ✭✭✭prunudo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122033302#Comment_122033302

    Aviation entrepreneur is a bit of a stretch.



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    #8586
    Dublinflyer
    Registered Users Posts: 594 ✭✭✭Dublinflyer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122033336#Comment_122033336

    He found a niche that turned out to be very profitable and has run with it for the past 30 odd years, so yeah entrepreneur is pushing it for sure.



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    #8587
    roadmaster
    Registered Users Posts: 3,633 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    When CHC move out of there base next year will it be sold to some other aviation company or do the DAA have other ideas for that area?



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    #8588
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,123 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    .

    2 hours on a turboprop? Meh. Very poor replacement imo. Doesn't compete with Ryanair.

    Post edited by JCX BXC on


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    #8589
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,156 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122035688#Comment_122035688

    average flight time on Dublin - Southampton is 65-70 mins, Gatwick isn’t much further really, but is notorious for holding from ATC



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    #8590
    bikeman1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122036220#Comment_122036220

    It may be, but as you say until you get to the approach for Gatwick, you won’t start the approach formation with all the other traffic into the single runway. SOU you are pretty much straight in.

    I have done LUX-DUB on the Dash 8. Flight time was 2:03 with strong headwinds. I made use of the free drinks on that one!



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    #8591
    jwm121
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭jwm121


    All Emirates flights from Dubai to Dublin in all classes fully booked until 27th of April



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    #8592
    Tenger
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    MOD POST

    Just a polite reminder that this is the infrastructure thread.

    MOD POST



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    #8593
    rameire
    Registered Users Posts: 4,130 ✭✭✭rameire


    Back to infrastructure.

    The tunnel from east campus to West campus has been approved at ABP.

    It now has to wait for 8 weeks for any judicial review objectors.

    Building will take 3 years.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



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    #8594
    dublin12367
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭dublin12367


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122058294#Comment_122058294

    Just read up a bit on this, so seems Ryanair and St Margaret’s residents appealed Fingal’s decision to grant permission for the tunnel.

    Ryanair - fair enough, they are involved in the airport - they don’t see the purpose or need for the tunnel and don’t want increased fees to pay for it (not surprising coming from Ryanair). Not saying they are right, but they’ve grounds to appeal.

    However, I’m struggling to find what grounds St Margaret’s had to appeal Fingal’s decision originally to ABP. Tunnel or no tunnel the noise around the area remains the same, which I presume is their main issue.

    I could only see Ryanair taking this to a judicial review out of the two? Even then, would they?



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    #8595
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,122 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    However, I’m struggling to find what grounds St Margaret’s had to appeal Fingal’s decision originally to ABP. Tunnel or no tunnel the noise around the area remains the same, which I presume is their main issue.

    It's objections for the sake of objections at this stage, they don't have to make sense. Our planning system is a crank's charter.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #8596
    jwm121
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭jwm121


    Would it be possible for Dublin Airport to focus on cargo expansion with cargo airlines using the large west apron while the cap on passenger numbers is in place? Especially if they get permission for the night time noise quota from ABP.



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    #8597
    Karppi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Karppi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122065329#Comment_122065329

    Cargo is not a good earner for an airport. You can charge a throughput fee per kg/tonne but cargo doesn't attract a passenger charge, and doesn't shop for food, cosmetics, smoked salmon etc.



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    #8598
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,123 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122061754#Comment_122061754

    Great take, a reasonable person would expect the system to say - in an area where there is already much louder noise, on a 24/7 basis, established with 80+ years, a noise appeal should not be considered.

    Will our system do this? Absolutely not.



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    #8599
    dublin12367
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭dublin12367


    https://x.com/michaelkelly707/status/1784940815346807284?s=46&t=5FNFtv8csMRI--VDBKyc7w

    Just came across this from Michael Kelly on X. Looks like pre clearance queue was under a lot of pressure yesterday morning.

    Edit - I can’t get link to work but if you copy and paste into search engine it should bring up post.



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    #8600
    jwm121
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭jwm121


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41384635.html

    Apparently Dublin airport will have 40+ million passengers next year rejoice!.. not



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    #8601
    dublin12367
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭dublin12367


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122078855#Comment_122078855

    another untrue prediction from SMTW. What’s new.?

    Statements like the above drive it home that they should be ignored and given very little attention/ consideration by the planners, media and public. Constantly coming out with false exaggerated claims and then they usually throw in a line at the end but but but we’re not against the airport or its expansion… sad really as when’s there’s genuine issues they will go unheard… the boy who cried wolf comes to mind.



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    #8602
    trellheim
    Registered Users Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭trellheim


    " Looks like pre clearance queue was under a lot of pressure yesterday morning." At that length of queue you have to wonder what value preclearance has, post USPC its not a nice place at all even if you shell out for 51st and Green as the whole circus is crammed into a small enough space with no restaurants , at least with a non USPC departure you know you will get on the plane and get to the USA eventually. Yes you will need to do border screening and customs at the other end either way but I can't see the value here ( and I've been through both a LOT of times)



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    #8603
    user302243
    Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭user302243


    Unless I'm booking on of the earliest flights out and I've a connection anyway I'd avoid preclearance.

    Last two times I've cleared in JFK I've walked through. I've missed two flights because Dublin took so long to process me as well which isn't ideal but not that common



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    #8604
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭Blut2


    I've gone through preclearance probably 50 times in the last decade and never once seen a queue like that. Also fly through T2 tens of times a year and have never once seen queues coming up into the main area like that either.

    There must have been some unusual mistake or mess up somewhere surely?



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    #8605
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122081010#Comment_122081010

    I was in T2 around that time. The queue was big yeah but maybe about half those in that video were queuing for CBP. The rest were just people in the airport and included people queuing for two flights at gates 410 & 408.



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    #8606
    cson
    Registered Users Posts: 14,417 ✭✭✭✭cson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122080266#Comment_122080266

    The area is already at capacity 9a-1p imo, that's before the additional MSP (DL & EI) & DEN. JetBlue is another 150+ pax going through there at peak time.

    I honestly prefer to use Shannon & connect in BOS/JFK than suffering DUB at this point for a direct flight. Particularly now DL are running a 767 on the JFK route.

    The afternoon flights are fine (which are LAX, IAD #2, ORD, JFK & BOS I think), its not as crowded.



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    #8607
    x567
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭x567


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122081594#Comment_122081594

    Shannon is a breeze by comparison to Dublin. I’ve never not walked straight up to the preclearance desk without a queue. The only issue (for me) lately is that EI have nudged back the departure times ex SNN a little which can make connections in JFK/BOS to Central or other further West time zone destinations a bit late and tight. Not such a big issue with United flights to EWR or ORD in the summer season…



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    #8608
    Blut2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭Blut2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122081594#Comment_122081594

    The real niche CBP pro-tip I think is to fly DUB→AMS→AUA→ the US. AUA has by an absolute mile the most relaxed US border clearance I've ever experienced.

    Slightly harder to make work logistically I'll admit, but sure its a good excuse for a few days on the beach in Aruba.



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    #8609
    cson
    Registered Users Posts: 14,417 ✭✭✭✭cson


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122083385#Comment_122083385

    Oh man I thought AUA was a nightmare when I went through there 2022, felt like I was constantly checking/re checking my bag.

    I'm lucky I have Global Entry so going via LHR/CDG/AMS/LIS isn't a huge deal. I just do not enjoy post preclearance in DUB for the first bank of departures at all these days, even 51&G is a zoo.



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    #8610
    trellheim
    Registered Users Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Yep exactly even if you take out the first flight to USA ( which I think is still the United to Newark) post preclearance is horrible its an 0920 so if you want a breakfast you can't get any serious options



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    #8611
    Nolimits
    Registered Users Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Nolimits


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084291#Comment_122084291

    Is there anything at all?

    I've an AA flight at 09:30 in a few months, I think our current plan was to get breakfast in the terminal and then go through preclearence and just wait.

    We considered 51st and Green, but it doesn't come with our ticket so we'd be paying for it, the reviews aren't great and if there was a queue at all in the preclearence we might not have enough time to get our money's worth.



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