World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) Files

A rerun of a historical progressive cause célebre is exactly what it is though every time people come out with this kind of crap:

It seems a bizarre position to throw the report to one side and potentially allow further abuse of children to continue.

Is that a risk worth taking, on your side of the argument?

One would need to be very insecure in themselves to think “I really don’t want to be seen as supporting the abuse of women and children” by people whom it’s patently obvious, couldn’t give a shyte, and change their opinions accordingly.

Nah, it’s the opposite effect, having tolerated the decades of laws and socially regressive and restrictive policies based upon pseudoscientific nonsense and feelings based upon festering prejudice and ignorance in Irish society. It’s why this part of an earlier article was particularly insightful given the Catholic Church still maintains control of every aspect of education in 90% of schools in Ireland:

The draft document attracted criticism from the Catholic Secondary School Parents Association which accused policymakers of “seeking to promote an ideology that refuses to acknowledge basic biological facts in favour of a new gender self-identity doctrine”.

The Association of Patrons and Trustees of Catholic Schools said Catholic school ethos must be accommodated to take account of the “constitutionally protected right of patrons to run their schools from a faith-based perspective”.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/education/2023/04/24/new-junior-cycle-curriculum-will-oblige-schools-to-teach-about-gender-identity/

In spite of the fact that it won’t be required to be taught in the 90% of schools which are owned and maintained and managed by the Catholic Church, they want to suppress it in the 10% of schools over which they have no authority or responsibility whatsoever by attempting to play the victim 😒

It subsequently became abundantly clear what you were getting at when you came out with this:

It seems a bizarre position to throw the report to one side and potentially allow further abuse of children to continue.

Is that a risk worth taking, on your side of the argument?

You’re not looking for clarification on anything, what you’re attempting to do, unsuccessfully, is based upon your own position, ascribe a position to me that I do not, and never have held.

Naturally, given your perspective, you will perceive other people who are not in alignment with your position as activists, while you speak around the issue, dismissing any relevant evidence on a whim, rather than engaging directly with the issue itself, which is exactly why I asked you to spit it out whatever you were getting at, precisely because I’d no idea where you were going with your line of questioning.

I do now, but I rather than simply doing the “I know you are but what am I” thing on it, I do not see you as an activist, nor would I ever call you an activist, and what I would call you is guaranteed to incur at the very minimum a threadban for being uncivil.

In other words, it's like a Ponzi scheme for research purposes to promote one agenda above all else.

You cannot possibly have missed the fcuking irony:

Below, journalist Christina Buttons (who, for full disclosure, I am in a relationship with) dives deeper into the newly discovered citation cartel in gender medicine, providing her own analysis.

https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/gender-medicines-citation-cartel

I disagree with her assessment though, it’s how the peer review process, citations and references functions. Naturally, given her perspective, based upon her prior positions, she is bound to characterise academic works and publications not intended for the general public, as an attempt to mislead the general public. At least she’s got some discernible principles though, unlike her former employers:

There is a critical distinction between speaking truth and being tactless, between sticking to the facts and sticking it to the libs.

https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/why-im-leaving-the-daily-wire

I don't think it's fair to say the majority of people presenting with gender dysphoria are talking rubbish. I think the massive increase in young people presenting with troubles at gender clinics or at GPs wanting puberty blockers or cross sex hormones really are suffering. From various things, and in the case of young women in particular, I think they're often basically suffering from the unpleasantness of being a young female in a massively sexualised society.

One thing I don't think is causing this increase is that transgender people were "always there" but just didn't dare to come out.

I do think there's an effect of social contagion (where have all the anorexics gone?) and I do think they're being exploited by people with other agendas.

And I suppose there are some, a few, who are just attention seeking, but I suspect they'll be more "non binary" or some of the other Ze/Hir or whatever invented stuff.

Good article here delving in to some of the possible reasons why so many girls are trying to "opt out" of womanhood. There certainly are some parallels with anorexia. The difference being we don't generally agree that teenage anorexics need to lose more weight and facilitate that with medication and surgery

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c7cc515f-001f-4ab4-bee1-67872a6b8667?shareToken=f15a86047ec311ddbc801e8ca205873f

Well rubbish in the sense that they don't have gender issues. They are not trans.

They have something else. Anxiety, mental health issues or else they are just odd balls.

I personally thought most are a mixture of odd ball people and stupid. The parents are the same.

One thing I don't think is causing this increase is that transgender people were "always there" but just didn't dare to come out.

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I do think there's an effect of social contagion (where have all the anorexics gone?) and I do think they're being exploited by people with other agendas.

They’ve not ‘gone’ anywhere volchista? Among teenagers their numbers have more than doubled in the last few years among the US population:

Eating disorder-related health visits — which include hospital stays, pediatrician visits, telehealth talk therapy, and everything in between — more than doubled among people younger than 17 in the past five years, according to a recent report from the data company Trilliant Health. From 2018 through mid-2022, visits among this age group  jumped 107.4% across all eating disorders, from around 50,000 visits at the beginning of 2018 to more than 100,000 in 2022. Visits related to anorexia nervosa, which has the highest death rate of any mental illness, jumped 129.26%. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna80745


They too face long waiting lists for treatment in the UK:

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/young-people-with-eating-disorders-on-the-rise-amid-worrying-wait-for-treatment-analysis-shows-12931298

And the same Professor O’ Shea who is so concerned about this topic, has also been tackling obesity for decades (his background in endocrinology does help!):

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/doctors-warned-to-stop-telling-obese-patients-eat-less-move-more-is-their-treatment/a1838111061.html

Tbh the comparisons to anorexia and schizophrenia or an infinite number of mental disorders really, really don’t further anyone’s argument. I won’t say they have an agenda because that implies that there is some thought put into their argument, and not just whatever forms in their minds that makes sense only to themselves.

The comparisons aren’t helpful, as there are far more differences between the conditions and their effects, than there are similarities. I’m not going to claim you personally don’t understand them, when I know you absolutely do given your own background in medicine, but when people see you making the claims and comparisons, it’s why they imagine there must be something to be said for them, when in reality, there just isn’t.

At one point, the LGBT community was respected…

No it wasn’t? That’s why it exists 🤨

It’s why the few headballs formed the LGB Alliance, because they felt they weren’t being given the respect they felt they were owed. I mean, they were right in the sense that they weren’t given any respect, but that was because of their opinions, not because of their sexual orientation.

You’re very very wrong.

The reason the LGB Alliance was formed was because LGB people had been ideologically hijacked by the rest of the acronym, the TQIA2S+ etc. They saw that RIGHTLY they were just part of society, lived their lives and had thankfully gone from tolerance and acceptance to just being the same as everyone else. And they wanted to use that.

They were formed because for all the talking about ending conversion therapy - the current medicine based gender ideology is nothing but that! Young lesbians are being told that they must accept physically intact biological males as lesbians, they are not allowed to hold a simple lesbian-only dating nights without males protesting outside, often violently.

Young people who don’t follow old fashioned stereotypes are pushed into “transitioning” - when they may well grow up to be health happy gay adults, they are pushed into becoming straight trans men and trans women. Theit sexual orientation is not a phase - it’s hard wired into them. You “transition” a young woman, who might dress stereotypically male but be attracted to women and you’ve removed one lesbian.

It’s insidious, it’s regressive and it has damaged gay people - hence the need for the LGB Alliance.

1. I think the figure was 200 or so if I recall a report from the HSE correctly. Oh and all paid for by the Treatment Abroad Scheme - I.e. us taxpayers.
2. Yes, perhaps an argument could ke be made for naive but I’d agree with you.

Naive is too kind.

This has been obviously a stupid fad the last few years. Bizarrely there are some parents who are encouraging this.

We can see what you wrote.

Headballs indeed. 🙄

We understand nuance.

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That’s not who I was referring to as headballs? Nuance, y’know? This is exactly what I said:

It’s why the few headballs formed the LGB Alliance, because they felt they weren’t being given the respect they felt they were owed. I mean, they were right in the sense that they weren’t given any respect, but that was because of their opinions, not because of their sexual orientation.

Nothing to do with, and no mention of, any or anyone’s sexual orientation.

The stance that wasn’t in any way controversial a decade ago was that homosexual children were just confused and seeking attention, that it was a phase and they’d grow out of it and become happy straight adults, lesbians are just prickteasing all the hot blooded manly men, or were still in denial; gay men are only after your children, and you’re in denial if you don’t believe it; traps are out to… well, they’re apparently after all the hot blooded men too! 😳

What a difference a decade makes, apparently.

EDIT: I forgot ‘political lesbianism’ was an idea floated about for a bit, but the origins of that idea were a few decades earlier, and hell if that wasn’t a couple of headballs trying to convince women to have sex with them. They were Feminists though, so nobody cared for their opinions, about anything. That much at least, hasn’t changed:

Political lesbianism is a phenomenon within feminism, primarily second-wave feminism and radical feminism; it includes, but is not limited to, lesbian separatism. Political lesbianism asserts that sexual orientation is a political and feminist choice, and advocates lesbianism as a positive alternative to heterosexuality for women as part of the struggle against sexism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_lesbianism

The breakaway LGB alliance broke away because they are same sex-attracted and they have nothing in common with trans people who have inserted themselves into the LGB discourse.

Wanting to change gender is not bi/homosexuality no matter how much they try and elbow in.

The opinions of the headballs 🙄 were nope, that's not us.

It must be very disappointing for the transphobic commentators that services for transgender people are been expanded. Children will be assessed and given appropriate treatment more promptly. How is that a victory exactly ?

The hysteria around the Cass report is something of a pyric victory.

So if medical advice recommends gender affirming treatments your fine with that. I believe in following the recommendations of clinical staff as has happened for years. Maybe you don't ?

As has been shown Dr Cass is not without her own biases so the single report by her doesn't trump the expertise in the field which has been gathered over decades. The do no harm bit is important because if an expert clinician decides that gender affirming treatments is the correct outcome for their patient they would be doing harm if they were denied that treatment for political or ideological reason.

In certain parts of America where the siren call of transphobic wingnuts has been listened to - medical experts are been compelled to do harm to their patients by denying treatment for political reasons - which is a horrific situation for those patients, and a horrific situation for doctors who are been compelled to break their oath.

Its criminal that a medical matter has been turned so highly political by a failed political ideology who see the only path to power as stoking culture wars.

Sorry but people who have worked in the field are clinical experts - unlike Dr Cass.

All medicine is experimental with costs and benefits. Nothing changes.

No one is rushing children through gender affirmative treatments and Dr Cass report describes the actual clinical percentages that have been normal practice at the Tavistocks for decades. Less than 15% of referrals go on to receive medical interventions and a much smaller percentage receive gender reassignment treatment. Dr Cass clearly describes this.