Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

there’s only one forum that I know of that asks you to support your position and that’s politics if I’m not mistaken - all other forums are discussion - sure back up your claims if you want to but there’s no onus on you to do so -this is a discussion forum not a fcking university -

in addition I note that you have conveniently ignored my example where I said of continuous requests for references over and over again and then criticising and near mocking those references when posters provide them in good faith - that was the crux of my argument- so your counter argument is meaningless in this example and anyway only appropriate to one forum- politics if even

it’s reassuring that you’re listening to what’s been said in this thread - there’s a few of us who post in particular threads and frankly we thought we were all going mad -this thread has been a great opportunity to highlight low level trolling which has been a cause of many an argument and ban, but not unfortunately for the low level troll . Whatever comes of this thread I’ll be watching closely to see just how much we’ve been listened to and just how much things will change in relation to low level trolling

I see at least some boards moderators need education on what low level trolling is.
I’ve spelt it out as clearly as I can but you for whatever reason either don’t get it or accept it .

Oh and by the way- do you have an official boards reference you could quote for me refuting the SPECIFIC example I gave that it’s not trolling?
Thanks (smiley face)

I don't really believe that's entirely relevant to the point I was trying to make - I was adressing a different poster about a different issue?

But, in any case, to address your point - Is it really that onerous to be asked for evidence or links to something to support a claim? Fair enough, it isn't a court of law, but if someone is asserting something then someone with an opposing view is usually going to look for links or evidence or whatever. If I had credible evidence to back me up then I'd love to drown them in it - I'd relish it - but, on the other hand, if I didn't have evidence that stacked up, then, yeah, I can see how I would get annoyed by people asking me for it.If you were having a debate with someone down in the pub you could get asked for evidence - it's a pretty common place feature of debate.

I absolutely agree with you that low level trolling is a feature of the site, but, most of it does fall within the rules if the poster isn't actually being abusive. Pretty hard to police that.

a fair point you were replying to a different poster - apologises

It’s good to see that a seasoned poster agrees low level trolling exists - at least that’s a start

Hence my suggestion they need to follow a sample of threads. Not just reports. I know they are maxxed out and cant follow all posts in a forum.

so you don’t get parody either - ok

I can see we’re never going to agree

Thats not any kind of real solution and this pushing of buttons is what is driving decent posters away. Hence this thread.

Even if I put them on ignore I still see replies from sincere posters challenging their crap.

To me its a bit of a cop out answer from a mod to advocate that.

As suggested, follow a sample of theads in the forum you moderate and if you see this kind of niggling, low level trolling act on it.

I’m just going to quote this thread from here on in to a poster who low levels troll me and I’ll let the former mods mods caragory mods and admins all decide themselves how they deal with it - because frankly I don’t give a sh1 te anymore - they’re not listening

you are talking and have talked in general about “taking things on board “ - when will boards/the admins etc issue a very clear statement around the particular actions you’re going to take?

And furthermore without getting into quoting posts which I actually hate doing, you did belittle me around my description of low level trolling as did another moderator and what is expected which is in essence either it’s “in our head” or we should “ignore it”

Clearly my issue is low level trolling. Clearly there isn’t a “solution” - clearly I’m expected as a poster to accept 3 demands from a poster for “proof” - which is known as badgering a poster btw - clearly posters who travel from thread to thread just asking for “proof” will never be banned because “it’s too difficult to catch them”?

Then fine - this is what I’m going to do from here on in - the next poster who badgers me in the way I’ve described in my posts today I’m just going to quote this thread to them - and I’ll let you deal with it -and I don’t expect to get banned for doing so either btw

I spent a number of posts trying to describe low level trolling - it’s not an easy thing to do but I think I’ve described it well enough. It’s even admitted here it’s not easy to describe so I think k my efforts aren’t half bad but they’re not the only example of low level trolling

I was greatly challenged by at least one moderator of this site this evening on this thread and told to “calm down” - it doesn’t make you feel particularly good about yourself when you’re trying to change things for the better - I may not be the most articulate and heart can rule head but given the responses they’re the same you’d get in a moderator response to an issue on a normal thread - change what you want I don’t care - you’ve got the feedback - dump it if you wish

To me there is a total lack of any common sense on the football forum.

I remember you giving me a "yellow Card" for posting in a thread about the madness of managers being sack, I posted:

"WBA sacked Bilic after beating Man City. The relegation survivor specialist, BFS came in, didn't exactly go to plan.."

For brevity, on West Ham forums, people all the time would mention the likes of some as, BFS and FLJ, all the time and no one would feel it offensive.

I would understand, say, a Liverpool fan, when beating Man Utd, saying, look at old Whiskey Nose..Gutted blah blah blah.

Q.

1. were you offend by me using BFS ?
2. Do you think any other poster on the soccer forum was offended by that post?