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Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What are you some boards.ie lick arse ?

    Warned for being uncivil. -Shield

    Post edited by Shield on


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,233 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    😊I'm just answering your feedback.

    You seem annoyed by the fact that Boards.ie restrict your right to free speech. As per your own post it's what "the internet was supposed to be all about." (Although I think it was originally a global information and communication device)

    So if you're struggling with being restricted on this site I am simply suggesting you set up your own site, page, social media account, blog. There are many options available to you where you won't be restricted by the site rules of Boards.ie

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    I would argue boards doesn’t impact anyone’s right to free speech (even if this isn’t America), but at the same time freedom of speech doesn’t mean everyone has to listen or that you have to be given a platform to voice those opinions.

    Just like every other social media platform and message board there’s rules and regulations. You can’t just post what you like on Facebook or Twitter either!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Thought you could on Twitter since Elon took over? One of the main reasons I dont have an account.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That will get you banned and is a perfect example of what people are talking about. Well done lad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,064 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Big Braveheart fans, these lads. "You may take away my account, but you will never take away my free speech!!!"



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You're an admin and you can't take a bit of a slagging ? I have to get a "careful now" warning lol, mad.

    Should be able to tell someone shut the f1ck up and stop being a condescending prick and that person should be mature enough to deal with it instead of using power and influence "to show me" pathetic really.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,233 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I didn't give you any warning.

    I actually smiled at your little comment (I even put a smiley face at the beginning of my reply so you'd know you made me smile!)

    However, your posts represent the type of posting that is being complained about here. If you can't stand by the strength of your argument without resorting to name calling and abuse well then you really need to consider how strong your point actually is. Your argument was beaten and you had nowhere to go other than name calling.

    And no, nobody on here "should be able to tell someone to shut the f1ck up". That's the whole point people are making.

    I didn't and won't warn you because I am engaging with you. Don't want to be "abusing my powers" now, do I?! I think I am capable of standing my ground and don't feel the need to warn you in order "to show you". However, the moderators of this forum may take a different view and issue a warning for abuse? off-topic? discussing moderator action on thread?

    If you would like to continue to engage in the discussion and provide some feedback that might be of benefit then you have to abide by the rules of the forum and the rules of this particular thread, just like everyone else.

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    as I’ve said before if this site was left without mods it would be like YouTube comments.

    I am glad boards is the diametric opposite of YouTube comments.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,893 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Moderator:

    This user has received another 2 points on his profile for continuing in an uncivil manner despite a previous 1 point warning for the same issue. He has also been banned from this thread for one week and may resume posting here again on April 12th. I have made it clear to him that if he breaches his thread ban, he will receive another two points on his profile, and will be permanently banned from the Feedback forum.

    -Shield



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,893 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Let’s keep it on topic though, yeah? That topic being “how can Boards save itself?”

    Everyone else, keep the ideas coming. There’s some good signal getting through the noise.

    Thanks.

    -Shield



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    One thing to note about the moderator/admin called Beasty (and possibly others) is that as far as I can see, they don't actively contribute much to threads these days. Bit of a sacrifice but far healthier for all concerned, certainly in forums and/or threads that are contentious. Another suggestion for ye lot to think about - no moderator opinions/ contributions in certain parts of the site, bar what's necessary to keep a thread legal.

    Obviously different for forums that are more hobby etc related where the moderator may be there as a hobbyist.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    So you think Mods need to give up their posting abilities? A Soccer Mod will no longer be allowed to post in that Forum.

    Eh ....no.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Think of the greater good perhaps. The reduction/ removal of one facet that often appears to ordinary posters to be suspect, as evidenced by a good many posts here. It's quite normal in other areas of society for people to recuse themselves where they potentially have a conflict of interests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm picturing a batcave where mods gather to take shop about boards 😄

    Is Mike the only contact to America Milli Vanilla about the site issues and updates, has Mike any juniors or interns?



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,915 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Mike's the only employee, so anything going to Vanilla goes through him.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    I believe this particular piece of feedback will not be acted upon.

    Imagine asking a poster to become a Mod and saying they would have to give up posting where they normally post 🤣

    Trying to increase participation rather than reducing it is the aim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I agree with most of your points both here and in your DR/Fedback threads.

    This is probably too big of an ask though.

    Ultimately mods are posters who came here to enjoy the chat. As much as we rail against some of their decisions, they probably became mods to support the continuation of the site. (I know some believe it's a power trip, but that would get old very quickly I'd say)

    They're unpaid, and widely abused. If they can't post, then it's all negative interactions and they'd just leave and not be replaced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I was asked once years ago and declined for mostly that reason. I felt you couldn't get involved with your own opinions on tricky threads if you were a moderator. Obviously other peoples mileage varies but it can't always be a comfortable place.



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its the method of delivery of those ideas and expression of hatred to another or a group which gets banned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,025 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    In a lot of the forums the mods in it are the most informed and most passionate posters in there. So it would be crazy to stop them from posting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,505 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Am I the only one that thinks boards is grand?!

    It does what I need it to do anyway...

    I get the odd rap of the knuckles from an overzealous mod every so often but overall seems fair enough....

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I agree totally.

    The only complaints I see are from people like Mad Lad who complain when they get sensured for uncivil behaviour and think it's their fantastic ideas causing the problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Packrat


    To echo what others have said on this thread, one of the most frustrating aspects of boards- more particularly CA, are the small number of very prolific posters who use quite sophisticated group attacks, wearing down tactics, endless questioning, extreme labeling feigned ignorance, requests for "peer reviewed studies" and insults which nobody in real life would ever use, - all to the effort of getting less experienced posters on the other side of the various arguments angry and subsequently banned.

    They do this all while remaining outwardly cordial and within the site or forum rules.

    I could list at least a half a dozen from memory who just drain the energy and joy from the site, who can never see any good in the opposing argument or poster, These are the people who in my humble opinion ought to be permanently banned for destroying the site and removed each time they rereg.

    Its often the genuine maybe less experienced poster perhaps with a short fuse who gets trolled into responding to days, weeks and months of utter dungposting by these very experienced and frankly downright nasty individuals.

    That these individuals are so seldom visibly moderated or removed is what has most of us up in arms against mods.



  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    to be fair and I am agreeing with Furze more than I ever thought possible, if you are heavily invested in a thread for any reason you really shouldn’t moderate it simultaneously.

    I don’t think I should stop posting in AH and frankly I’m not going to, but if I am following a thread or very active in it I will refrain where possible from modding also. It can be a conflict of interest to be fair!

    I think the suggestion does have some merit and should not be readily dismissed anyway



  • Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    maybe a blanket ban on any thread on gender sexuality or race.

    Once these threads start, they are immediately shut down or shut down within a day. Begs the question, why allow them to start?

    Example the one shut down today over some young fella being a dick in Ennis/Limerick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    I'm probably a bit guilty of that myself in the past, but to be fair: people coming i. and making wild dubious claims that are nothing more scaremongering crap and passing it off as 'well known' will invite claims for proof. And then being told to go and Google it.…?

    I'm all for wide-ranging opinions but at least don't try and pass them off as fact.

    Post edited by Princess Consuela Bananahammock on

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Vote4Squirrels


    Please don’t laugh but what’s vanilla!?? It seems to be really important and I feel a bit lost!!!!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 36,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Except that is not what they said.

    99% of my posts in any Sport Forum is discussion based - not Mod based. But they think Mods should give up the 99% — utter nonsense.

    If I am engaged with a poster and it gets heated - another Mod will moderate of course if it is necessary - that's common sense in fairness. Unless it is blatantly obvious that a warning should be given eg " You are a stupid prick/wanker" - that's a no brainer and cannot be argued and no conflict can exist.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,623 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    No ordinary poster finds it suspect just those with grudges.



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