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Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭shimadzu


    Boards used to be a place many would turn to seeking advice, it was very handy when it came to DIY, car issues, computers, government services, bargains etc. There were many contributors that were very knowledgeable and willing to offer opinions. Unfortunately there was a surge in hostile posters or posters just looking to get a rise out of people while contributing very little to the site, this drove a lot of people away as the sites usefulness diminished. As it stands boards is a site you visit if you want to have a argument with some randomers online and is useful for little else at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Oh I don't know about that - there's a fair bit of activity on many such help/ advice threads. Look down the latest posts at most times and there's a good number.



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    yeah take a peek to the motors, food, coffee forums just off the top of my head as ones I frequent and then come here and tell me no one wants to help.

    Like I posted a thread the other evening about car batteries for some advice, one or two mins after I posted I answered one of my questions myself so edit the OP but already someone had answered me!

    Some forums are definitely quieter as a result of vanilla and as you say some folk here just live for an argument but to suggest there’s no point asking for help here anymore is nonsense to be blunt.

    One of the major issues I take from this thread is this doom and gloom attitude that the sites F’d beyond repair— but it’s just not the case. It’s also completely unhelpful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    As it stands boards is a site you visit if you want to have a argument with some randomers online and is useful for little else at the moment.

    Say what you want though, r/Ireland is far, far worse, absolute pure toxic, I thought this place was bad until I discovered that and I'm talking more about the SS style modding where you really can't offer any opinion that goes against the modern day liberalist view or you can be banned from the whole platform not just r/ireland this is the extent the folk at r/Ireland go to , they will have you banned off the platform entirely so that others won't have to hear anything you got to say that they don't agree with.

    I do firmly believe Mods on Boards have far too much power, thread bans, Site bans, even deleting threads they don't think should be seen FFS, it's an incredible abuse of power on such a platform. Just because someone doesn't want to hear or see something shouldn't give them the right to have it removed even if people complain, what type of platform is this if only boards approved content can be displayed ? I know they have the right as a private company but still, it's an abuse of power and free speech which the internet was supposed to be all about.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,597 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    This.

    I'd add that there's simply no point in engaging with people who pretend that they're being censored. I stopped a long time ago.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,869 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Just because someone doesn't want to hear or see something shouldn't give them the right to have it removed

    just because you think you have the right to say something, that does not give you the right to say something without consequence !

    if that consequence is a ban from a thread, a warning, or a site ban…. well thats the consequence for saying whatever egregious thing you came up with.

    if you want a life without consequences im afraid youre in a for a very rude awakening when you get older.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,564 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    what type of platform is this if only boards approved content can be displayed ? I know they have the right as a private company but still, it's an abuse of power and free speech which the internet was supposed to be all about.

    You answered your own question there. This is a private company. Membership is open to everyone but you have to agree to the rules. If you don't agree to the rules then you can't be a member.

    There is no right to free speech on this site. If you want to post about something that isn't allowed on Boards you can always post it on your own pages. We all have social media accounts now. If you feel strongly enough about a topic you are free to start the conversation on your own page. Set up your own blog etc.

    Boards.ie is responsible for the content posted on it. That's why you don't have a right to free speech here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad




  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,564 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    May I suggest you set one up if you feel strongly enough about a subject that you want to post on the internet about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    What are you some boards.ie lick arse ?

    Warned for being uncivil. -Shield

    Post edited by Shield on


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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,564 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    😊I'm just answering your feedback.

    You seem annoyed by the fact that Boards.ie restrict your right to free speech. As per your own post it's what "the internet was supposed to be all about." (Although I think it was originally a global information and communication device)

    So if you're struggling with being restricted on this site I am simply suggesting you set up your own site, page, social media account, blog. There are many options available to you where you won't be restricted by the site rules of Boards.ie

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    I would argue boards doesn’t impact anyone’s right to free speech (even if this isn’t America), but at the same time freedom of speech doesn’t mean everyone has to listen or that you have to be given a platform to voice those opinions.

    Just like every other social media platform and message board there’s rules and regulations. You can’t just post what you like on Facebook or Twitter either!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Thought you could on Twitter since Elon took over? One of the main reasons I dont have an account.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That will get you banned and is a perfect example of what people are talking about. Well done lad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,608 ✭✭✭nachouser


    Big Braveheart fans, these lads. "You may take away my account, but you will never take away my free speech!!!"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    You're an admin and you can't take a bit of a slagging ? I have to get a "careful now" warning lol, mad.

    Should be able to tell someone shut the f1ck up and stop being a condescending prick and that person should be mature enough to deal with it instead of using power and influence "to show me" pathetic really.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,564 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I didn't give you any warning.

    I actually smiled at your little comment (I even put a smiley face at the beginning of my reply so you'd know you made me smile!)

    However, your posts represent the type of posting that is being complained about here. If you can't stand by the strength of your argument without resorting to name calling and abuse well then you really need to consider how strong your point actually is. Your argument was beaten and you had nowhere to go other than name calling.

    And no, nobody on here "should be able to tell someone to shut the f1ck up". That's the whole point people are making.

    I didn't and won't warn you because I am engaging with you. Don't want to be "abusing my powers" now, do I?! I think I am capable of standing my ground and don't feel the need to warn you in order "to show you". However, the moderators of this forum may take a different view and issue a warning for abuse? off-topic? discussing moderator action on thread?

    If you would like to continue to engage in the discussion and provide some feedback that might be of benefit then you have to abide by the rules of the forum and the rules of this particular thread, just like everyone else.

    Post edited by Big Bag of Chips on


  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    as I’ve said before if this site was left without mods it would be like YouTube comments.

    I am glad boards is the diametric opposite of YouTube comments.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,818 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Moderator:

    This user has received another 2 points on his profile for continuing in an uncivil manner despite a previous 1 point warning for the same issue. He has also been banned from this thread for one week and may resume posting here again on April 12th. I have made it clear to him that if he breaches his thread ban, he will receive another two points on his profile, and will be permanently banned from the Feedback forum.

    -Shield



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,818 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Let’s keep it on topic though, yeah? That topic being “how can Boards save itself?”

    Everyone else, keep the ideas coming. There’s some good signal getting through the noise.

    Thanks.

    -Shield



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    One thing to note about the moderator/admin called Beasty (and possibly others) is that as far as I can see, they don't actively contribute much to threads these days. Bit of a sacrifice but far healthier for all concerned, certainly in forums and/or threads that are contentious. Another suggestion for ye lot to think about - no moderator opinions/ contributions in certain parts of the site, bar what's necessary to keep a thread legal.

    Obviously different for forums that are more hobby etc related where the moderator may be there as a hobbyist.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,938 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    So you think Mods need to give up their posting abilities? A Soccer Mod will no longer be allowed to post in that Forum.

    Eh ....no.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Think of the greater good perhaps. The reduction/ removal of one facet that often appears to ordinary posters to be suspect, as evidenced by a good many posts here. It's quite normal in other areas of society for people to recuse themselves where they potentially have a conflict of interests.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,031 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm picturing a batcave where mods gather to take shop about boards 😄

    Is Mike the only contact to America Milli Vanilla about the site issues and updates, has Mike any juniors or interns?



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,064 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Mike's the only employee, so anything going to Vanilla goes through him.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,938 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    I believe this particular piece of feedback will not be acted upon.

    Imagine asking a poster to become a Mod and saying they would have to give up posting where they normally post 🤣

    Trying to increase participation rather than reducing it is the aim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭Packrat


    I agree with most of your points both here and in your DR/Fedback threads.

    This is probably too big of an ask though.

    Ultimately mods are posters who came here to enjoy the chat. As much as we rail against some of their decisions, they probably became mods to support the continuation of the site. (I know some believe it's a power trip, but that would get old very quickly I'd say)

    They're unpaid, and widely abused. If they can't post, then it's all negative interactions and they'd just leave and not be replaced.

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I was asked once years ago and declined for mostly that reason. I felt you couldn't get involved with your own opinions on tricky threads if you were a moderator. Obviously other peoples mileage varies but it can't always be a comfortable place.



  • Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its the method of delivery of those ideas and expression of hatred to another or a group which gets banned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,150 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    In a lot of the forums the mods in it are the most informed and most passionate posters in there. So it would be crazy to stop them from posting.



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