Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

Then you agree to disagree.

The problem is, people come into debate forums not to debate or learn about different viewpoints, but to vent and push agendas.

Couldn't agree more. One of boards problems are those who insist their views are correct. Other posters are lost to the thread and then they are left to talk among themselves.

did you just get a compromised password message from Google? I did just about an hour ago - I don’t think it was about boards per se though

I actually addressed your point carefully. There is hardly a subject where evidence is not debatable at some level. Perhaps it's true in the case of some mathematical conventions but not in the real world. The world is not black & white, right or wrong, good or bad, evil or holy - it's shades of these things. So your claim is fallacious.

The only relevance of this is that no one should presume on any thread that they are wholly right and others are wholly wrong.

No… consider the posters argument as stated above

"Despite what some would like to claim on most subjects there is a right and a wrong and that is established through facts and evidence. If one party refuses to acknowledge this then they are not in a discussion but are preaching."

They claim that most threads/debates on boards can be resolved through the idea that there is a right and a wrong and that is established through facts and evidence. Others can judge the value of this argument as well but as far as I'm concerned that is straightforward dogmatism and should have no place on boards. And just who is preaching here?? Certainly not I. Keeping an open mind is always advisable.

So we shall leave it there and agree to disagree.

There is no fear that with the banning of posters that one poster describes , (and I think they are vastly under selling themselves on their understanding of being a dick btw ) , that that thread will become an echo chamber for the left ..the opposite is true .

It is a draw for trolls and reregs on top of regular posters by its nature ,..right vs left .. and those who are convinced their opinions are the only correct one , with constant pile ons on posters who post against the narrative.

It has to be said that there are some very good balanced posters there also , but they are not the issue . Any reasonable discussion is destroyed by posters who constantly dump links and try to bait other posters , insulting and discussing other posters and generally ' being a dick .'

And it isn't all on the side that furze99 is asserting .

Hence they trigger moderation .

Without good moderation any differing opinion would be bullied from that thread .

There is nothing amiss at all with the moderation on Current Affairs , that is just the opinion of those who cannot ever accept that they are ever uncivil or break the charter .

The mods do a very fair job , just not enough mods on that busy forum to see all the abuse that some posters get Reporting is sometimes the only way to highlight the trolling and harassment of a few posters on the thread

One of the nastiest things is the way posters perceived to be on the opposing side are discussed between others , labelled and otherwise persistently trolled with incorrect statements being attributed to them on order to bait and inflame .

Saying people are ' thin skinned ' and 'easily insulted ' is subjective. The same posters who dole this treatment out would find it unbearable if happening repeatedly to themselves every time they post .Its harassment and an attempt to silence other posters and /or bully them from the thread .

I think what has occurred on that thread is that those who persist posting against the narrative are the more stubborn individuals who refuse to be ground down ! And who are very careful how they post because they know that they will and are being reported for the slightest thing .

So saying all the reporting is on one side is untrue … both sides have had warnings and bans .

.Do I think Boards is dying ? No but death by a thousand cuts might be the future because of the Vanilla issues.

There is a thread on feedback for those bugs which Mike comes back to regularly to update but it is very slow going and as soon as one issue is sorted it appears to cause another .

As for younger posters ..I don't see too many having the interest to discuss politics but would have thought football , gaming , and after hours would attract more .

As a rule I only frequent for Music and Home and have seen very little overt moderation on these sites and yet they still roll on . Not so busy on the Home front since the changeover , don't know why .

People tend to be happier and amicable on these threads, and agree to disagree .

So I suppose CA and Politics just are difficult because people tend to take it so seriously.

Maybe that's the key takeaway ..we should all relax a bit ?

I think it is , but as I said there are not enough mods to see it all or see it as it is happening .

It would need a mod reading along with every busy thread or even the most contentious ones .

Warned by a mod for this, What a joke, I rest my case

A bizarre post to be honest from reading this thread.

It's the first time I have seen mods engage and discussing feedback.

So it's ok for you to call me a dick, I rest my case