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Site is a graveyard - How can boards save itself? [Threadbanned users in 1st post]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭The Continental Op




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,535 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I think he lost interest very soon after starting, if he ever had any interest that is.

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    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,973 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    130 replies in 2.5 hours , yeh nail the lid of the coffin shut.

    🤔

    My weather

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    People complaining about moderation are like opposing fans at a sports event, they all give out about the ref.

    It's the same with complaining it's gone too right wing, the other side are complaining it's gone too left wing.

    The two week outage for the move to the new platform was a killer.

    Soccer used to be a great forum for the likes of myself who don't follow a team but are generally interested.

    Now it's a dead zone, lost, with nothing but team super threads.

    Other sports forums like GAA have dried up.

    In GAA you used to have a match thread for every game from the quarter finals onwards, now a single championship thread is sufficient.

    I suppose it's just the way social media is going.

    The tech specific forums are still good though for getting questions answered.

    But things like Current Affairs is just full of cranks.



  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,215 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    But does it also apply to mods? Because I've seen some mods behaving like absolute dicks and not just on the forums they moderate.

    Surely mods should be expected to behave in a manner that upholds the standards they are supposed to enforce on the rest of us?

    Yes it does. Moderators have been nudged, advised, warned etc just like other posters. Moderators have been spoken to about their style of moderating. And moderators have been demodded or quit themselves after being spoken to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭purifol0


    I recognize all the posters in this thread. And it's not because I post often. The userbase is shrinking



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This is exactly as I'd expect. The problem is the lack of any feedback loop on reports.

    I'm not blaming you for this, but it would be great if posters were getting feedback to know if reports were accepted and actioned or not. This would help in knowing whether I'm wasting my time in making future similar reports.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Nothing brings the place back to life more than discussing its imminent death.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    I remember last year the Eurovision thread was noticeably quiet, especially during the voting and the Late Late Toy Show thread got as much posts as an average LLS thread in 2016, Rock and Metal forum has only had a handful of posts this last month.

    This site probably will go for at least a few more years, but the difference between now and 5 years ago is definitely hard to ignore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I've never had positive interactions with moderators online in general but the ones here are particularly aggressive and speak to you like a school teacher would. I have loads of warnings from them but learned to stop even opening their messages.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I can't even use most sub reddits as I can never get my karma high enough. I usually post about blackpill incel related topics so it is very easy to rack up the down votes. Reddit is the perfect example of an echo chamber as they only allow views that are popular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    When it comes to that mod, I know I will be targeted. Multiple threads now. And that's because I complained about the mod and their treatment of posters on Feedback (related to the Tubridy thread). Numerous good posters lost due to the mod's behavior on that thread. Of course, that feedback thread was binned. The usual clique. Within a short time to that, I got banned from the Gangland thread for posting about drugs and their ties to gangland when it's about gangland hits. When I tried to create a gangland and drugs thread, it was closed because there was already a gangland thread!!! That's the kind of targeting posters are talking about and sick of, I'd imagine. Same mod warns me for posting about Donaldson's expenses from 2009 - yet it was absolutely nothing related to the recent charges which the mod said not to post about. You can't win. Looks like that mod has been taken off the thread now but no good to me or you when we've been warned or thread banned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,919 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    this is an excellent post which really explains succinctly the problem with boards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I think moderation is the epitome of an impossible task. There's no way to do it in a way that keeps everyone happy. Some people want more, some want less.

    Without a degree of moderation the place would become a shytshow.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Fair enough on the mod time demands. Even some automated system would be great, to tell us the outcome of each report.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 81,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    This is already being done, In CA or after hours for example if I or another mod warn a poster for something, generally we will edit the post and write "Mod warned for this"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,676 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    The charter in CA really needs to be updated really because most bans are at the whim of mods.

    Anyone who is a regular and not biased can see the bias towards certain posters.

    Probably the best one was when people on the less favorable side were warned about talking about Biden in a Biden thread while the more favorable side kept on talking about Trump.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,638 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Learned a lot here, whether it's the Cooking Club, parkrun, travel, how to run a marathon or buying cars. I've been a mod for 6 years and haven't banned anyone, though tbf, they're pretty non-controversial fora.

    I can't think of any old school type message board I know that's thriving, though. Really started to drop off probably 10 years ago. It's a shame. Vanilla has made such an unholy mess this place, dreadful.



  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Charleigh Tinkling Squadron


    but that’s never been the case. Why do you suddenly need feedback when never before was it necessary?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    I'm here since 2007, it was great craic.

    For me, the downfall started with the GDPR and account closure option, combined with discussion limits (rightly or wrongly), Vanilla clusterfcuk, changing demographics, and site leadership lack of communication killed it.

    It's had a minor bounce back, but I'm not sure how long it realistically has left



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    " In at least 50% of the cases a moderator will decide no action is needed."

    You see this is interesting and whilst it may only be a generalisation, it implies that in 50% of cases a moderator does intervene in some way. So the tactic by some of reporting posts is a valid one, you get a 1 in 2 'success' rate. Given that many posts are not reported and people just let them slide, it also implies that this is not a very efficient way of monitoring.

    Obviously only certain people are privy as to who are serial reporters. It must be possible to generate reports of a posters reporting history.

    FWIW, there are clearly forums where very little moderation is required. If I were to suggest an improvement, it would to assign a particular mod to contentious threads as they arise in AH/CA or elsewhere. Let them follow it but not participate in it and adjudge whatever actions are needed on the basis of the thread as a whole and the charter and with little or no input from reports. I'm fully aware and appreciate a lot of work is done on a voluntary basis. However the number of threads that are contentious and long running are not that great in number. This I think would be fairer in the round. As it is, it's impossible to express quite valid, every day and reasonable opinions on some threads without censure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,890 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @BaywatchHQ

    I usually post about blackpill incel related topics so it is very easy to rack up the down votes.

    Sounds like you'd be happier on 4Chan.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,930 ✭✭✭satguy


    We all know over moderation is a big part in how the site died.

    But also new members and low post count members, never get given time to grow,, You see it all the time,, Some new guy starts a thread, and then gets pounced on by the usual clique, and run off the site.

    It is a discussion board,, but there is a certain clique on here and some out of touch Mods,, That seem to want to shut down any discussion that does not fit in with how they think.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The old yellow card / red card system was better than nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭jackboy


    There is a trend of a few posters combining forces to bait posters into saying something terrible, resulting in a ban. Fair enough ban the guy that says the terrible thing but surely baiting fails the 'don't be a dick' threshold.

    A tiny number of posters have banded together and are successfully getting posters banned left right and centre across multiple threads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Yep, same names most of the time. Most people who look through CA could list them off from memory. It's a valid and successful tactic on their part I guess.



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,832 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Posters are actively encouraged not to engage with "suspect" posts and to report them.



  • Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Did they ever get a replacement mod for the the mustard and carlow south east forum?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    The basic rule of "Don't be a dick" still stands.

    It doesn't really though. As I've commented before, for a site whose mantra is 'don't be a dick', Boards has always tolderated a staggering amount of dickishness.

    How often did we see some clown in prison and a mod/admin pointing out that they've had 9 reds and 16 yellows and they're just back from their second site ban in 6 months or whatever.

    That kind of poster should be permanently gotten rid of before they've amassed even half that kind of record.

    Mods and admin can argue that this is the process at work, but it's glacially slow, and in the meantime, those posters pollute as much as they can, for as long as they can, and it absolutely does have an effect on the extent to which the kind of poster Boards wants to keep (or should want to keep) can be bothered engaging with threads, fora, and the site itself.



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