March 8th - What’s your vote? Mod Note In Post #677

realdanbreen · 10-03-2024 12:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873285#Comment_121873285

" working people unable to have kids" hehe. Ffs you couldn't make it up!

realdanbreen · 10-03-2024 12:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874185#Comment_121874185

Spoken like a true man of the cloth!

KevMayo88 · 10-03-2024 12:51PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874253#Comment_121874253

Stating cold fact is not "anti trans".

Rothko · 10-03-2024 01:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874253#Comment_121874253

The mods have done a great job of removing them.

calculator · 10-03-2024 01:12PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873285#Comment_121873285

Re: GPs, I've seen this a few times and I'm genuinely surprised. Not my experience at all. It's weird.

TinyMuffin · 10-03-2024 01:15PM

Voting NO for both

Pippa hacket another green minister on tv now. who is absolutely useless.

nachouser · 10-03-2024 01:17PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874496#Comment_121874496

Yeah, my GP is a walk-in clinic in the city centre. I've never waited more than an hour to be seen.

Hippodrome Song Owl · 10-03-2024 01:20PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874496#Comment_121874496

I know that a new colleague has been unable to get a GP having moved here. As of last month not a single GP practice was accepting new patients in Lucan, Leixlip, Celbridge, or Maynooth.

AyeGer · 10-03-2024 01:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121872331#Comment_121872331

O’Gorman in his arrogance thinks he knows what’s best for us. If he could he would sideline us all and make whatever changes he liked.

rob316 · 10-03-2024 01:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873956#Comment_121873956

Deputy O’Cathasaigh, however, said this strategy was unlikely.

“There's very few TDs who are going to be packing their bags with a bunch of empty coke cans to the local Centra in order to get a deposit on it,” he said.

There it is. The little people can do it but we won't be.

AyeGer · 10-03-2024 01:26PM

It’s a bit of a worry that all parties were in favour of this referendum yet the people have overwhelmingly said No. In some parts of the country the No vote was in excess of 80%. The people ruling over us are clearly out of touch with their voters.

I think our media establishment play a significant role in who we end up electing, anyone they don’t like or who says something that doesn’t align with their own world view they go after relentlessly.

Glaceon · 10-03-2024 01:30PM

I am voting NO (family amendment)

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874496#Comment_121874496

It’s a huge issue in Drogheda. I only got a GP place because my wife was already there.

Galwayguy35 · 10-03-2024 01:41PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121870152#Comment_121870152

Definitely for SF and PBP because the less affluent areas that they need for votes seem to be turning against them.

SuperBowserWorld · 10-03-2024 02:12PM

Voting NO for both

We dodged a bullet with this referendum.

I think the genie is out of the bottle.

People no longer trust the government or the media.

It's a dangerous situation to be in. You can see what happened in the US.

The politicians in power and those waiting on the wings and the general media need to take a long hard look at themselves.

It's a small prosperous island country. And we are squandering billions and leaving people with no hope for the future. It should not be this hard. We should not be in this situation.

KevMayo88 · 10-03-2024 02:19PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874253#Comment_121874253

And just like the referendum, you and your position are the ones in the minority.

BrianD3 · 10-03-2024 02:22PM

The more I think about this, the sweeter it is. One of the best parts is the backfiring of the hubristic strategy of having the vote on International Women's Day. Can just imagine multiple politicians and NGO reps preparing their reactions in advance, each one trying to out do the other "a historic and momentous day for Ireland and fitting that it happened on international women's day". LOL.

KevMayo88 · 10-03-2024 02:30PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874763#Comment_121874763

It's not like they were even defeated by 51/49 where the government could still pat themseleves on the back for a campaign well fought, but that just missed the mark. It's not like the turnout was tiny- it was a respectable 44%. It's not like the government can say they had no support- virtually every opposion party and NGO followed them like sheep.

The govenment got roundhouse kicked by the electorate by a huge margin, and it is wonderful.

KevMayo88 · 10-03-2024 02:35PM

Voting NO for both

“There’s no moratorium across social media and that’s something that we’re certainly going to have to look at going forward.” - Minister of State Mary Butler.

It's like something from North Korea now. How on earth would they propose to initiate a moratorium on social media, that is global by default? Ban internet access in Ireland the day before an election?

tom23 · 10-03-2024 02:41PM

Voting NO for both

turn off the internet? they are deluded

Hippodrome Song Owl · 10-03-2024 02:45PM

Voting NO for both

Mary Butler was dreadful on the radio this morning. More talk of "misinformation" and confused voters. And that absolute nonsense of a moratorium on social media. And talking about investigating the AG leak. Awful.

The law professor, who was on a while later, spoke well and represented the view of many voters, I think.

KevMayo88 · 10-03-2024 02:56PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874899#Comment_121874899

They would literally have to turn off internet access in Ireland to have a social media moratorium work.

Or somehow contrive for the entire world's population, internet users, social media partners, and law enforcement to respect a brief Irish moratorium in the largest single coordinated act of internet censorhip in history. I don't think Mary has that pull.

The woman is braindead.

BrianD3 · 10-03-2024 02:58PM

Mary Butler is as useless as the rest of them. Has anyone asked her (Minister of State for Older People) what's happening with the regulation of the homecare sector that is in the programme for government and still hasn't happened. Regulated, better quality homecare instead of the current utter shambles would help elderly people and their family carers far more than a constitutional amendment about "striving" to support carers.

Like all politicians, Mary loves a photoshoot. Here she is hob nobbing with the CEO of Home Instead, a for profit homecare business that the HSE outsources services to. The less said about the standard of "care" from this company and others like it, the better.

https://corksafetyalerts.com/news/home-instead-launch-the-annual-essential-guide-to-ageing-well-2023/

nagel · 10-03-2024 03:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874988#Comment_121874988

On a side note Re Mary, she is only "minister of state for older people" within the department of health , I had an issue of concern regarding a problem a neighbour had ,and raised this with her " this is the helpful reply I got from her office back in 2021 I quote from the part of the email reply

"" Minister Butler's brief, however, pertains to issues under the remit of the Department of Health only.

Your concerns might be better voiced to SAGE Advocacy who can be contacted on info@sageadvocacy.ie. They provide support and an advocacy service for the elderly.""

So really there is no Minister for Older people , so not surprised by her performance

road_high · 10-03-2024 03:48PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874899#Comment_121874899

Heard a snippet of her too. So laughably out of touch it’s almost tragic. She is genuinely THAT stupid that she thinks CCCP style forced censorship is what’s going to help her cause- after the absolute seething drubbing Friday from the electorate. Clearly she wants more

_Kaiser_ · 10-03-2024 03:56PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121874838#Comment_121874838

It's amazing how stuff that would have prompted responses like "conspiracy forum thataway" is now being spoken in all seriousness by mainstream party TDs.

Similarly O'Gorman talking about investigating the AG leak.

It's essentially resentment and disbelief that the population/"peasants"/"ordinaries" voted against them, and rather than heeding the almost universal message that the biggest problem was the vague, confused (not confusing!) language and inability to stand over it in recent weeks by the TDs and advocates.

But no, it's the fault of channels they don't control for the debates happening, the questions answered and the information provided. That's the issue. That's what needs to be controlled.

It used to be that ideas like this came from extremists and control freaks. Now we have FFG TDs coming out with it. No wonder McEntee is so keen on her "hate speech" / hurt feelz Bill.

Our democracy and freedom of speech is threatened so long as this current lot remain at the helm. I really hope that the Irish electorate remember today and messaging like the above and use their votes wisely in the coming months.

KevMayo88 · 10-03-2024 04:34PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875242#Comment_121875242

That clip of McEntee a few months back getting asked about the Hate Speech Bill just shows her, and this government's complete hurbis, arrogance and delusion. The interviewer made the point to her that all recent polls indicated the majority of Irish people oppose the bill, as well as thousands signing a petition to stop the introduction of same. Helen looked at him with her usual, blank, gormless expression, and remained completely unphased.

Strumms · 10-03-2024 04:47PM

Voting NO for both

much of YES side totally disingenuous and toys out of their pram in defeat.

its really not very democratic, the likes of these…, McEntee, O’Gorman and Mary Lou.. trying to disparage the actual results….they are beyond livid, spewing absolute head case undemocratic nonsense…

they lost, the majority saw quite clearly what they were trying to do to this country and it’s citizens and told them to take a hike. In quite an unambiguous straightforward hammering at the ballot box. 😉

we had their amigo Leo, politicking outside a polling station to boot…. So they can have zero complaints. It’s been a disingenuous campaign of lies, misinformation, toxic spin, shady behaviour and fear mongering from them…

they’ve had their backsides handed to them. Their demeanour suggests they didn’t at all expect it. Which is a key indicator as to how out of touch with the thoughts, challenges, fears and desires of the Irish citizens they actually are….

_Kaiser_ · 10-03-2024 04:58PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875445#Comment_121875445

I have posted before about how unsuitable McEntee is as a TD, never mind a senior minister - her track record and the worsening problems under her remit (immigration, crime) speak for themselves.

What I worry more about is that this completely under-qualified, dangerous (to our society) individual will continue to fail upwards. We live in an age where identity and box-ticking matter above all. Look at the calls/mandates for gender quotas etc.

It's like when Leo became Taoiseach. Much was made in the media about our first mixed-heritage, gay, young new leader (just do a Google search. It's ridiculous) - the first 2 having zero to do with his ability or suitability, and the latter since proving to be a negative with his immaturity displayed numerous times.

If McEntee somehow got the top job, you can be sure it would all about equality and breaking the glass ceiling and how we've come into the 21st century - but again zero to do with her track record or ability.

She'd be many magnitudes of order worse than Leo though. That much is certain.

KevMayo88 · 10-03-2024 05:11PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875582#Comment_121875582

After her performance in the TV debate aganist McDowell last week, it's hard to imagine her ever becoming FG leader. She simply cannot debate and has absolutely zero charisma, wit or the ability to think on her feet. There is nothing behind that vacant stare. Whatever about Leo, McEntee is not leadership material.

Danzy · 10-03-2024 05:14PM

Voting NO for both

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121875719#Comment_121875719

McEntee is not able for the job

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March 8th - What’s your vote? Mod Note In Post #677