March 8th - What’s your vote? **Mod Note In Post #677**

Or to put it another way, the majority of people who cared enough to vote, voted no.

As are the so called “opposition” who 💯 supported them such as Sinn Fein, Soc dems, Labour, PB4P etc. All in the government group think pocket and must be held accountable for that

More millions of taxpayers money wasted ,thanks to O Gorman and his buddies.

...down with that sort of thing!

I'm surprised the family amendment has failed, there's no obvious way to rerun it either unless they come up with a much larger piece of text.

The care amendment seemed to be slipping in last few days, and seems the primary issues were from both sides of the spectrum. The right talking about keeping mothers in the constitution. The left talking about care text not going far enough. I reckon if the motion was simply to remove the wording about a woman's life in the home then it'd have passed.

Who knows though? With FG specifically having been in power for so long, it's possible any proposal the government came up with would have failed. Might have been more sensible to wait until the other side of a general election?

Great result, I'm a male, unpaid carer and I voted No because I simply don't believe that the state "striving" to support carers will do anything. And that this amendment was mainly a cynical attempt to exploit carers to remove the word woman from the constitution for woke, virtue signalling reasons.

The existing constitution says that the state will endeavour to ensure that mothers don't have to take up paid employment. With hundreds of thousands of women/mothers working so they can pay their rent or mortgage, yeah that's working out really well.

Carers going to court to challenge the state on its "striving" was not going to happen just as mothers in paid employment don't take cases on the state's "endeavouring".

The NGO representative and others making confident flippant comments about how a Yes would do x, y and z were spewing BS. E.g. Catherine Cox from Family Carers Ireland (state funded NGO that supposedly represents people like me) on Six One claimed that a Yes vote would mean that a government could never again cut the carer's support grant as happened during the financial crisis. Absolutely rubbish claim.

If the current government and FFG wanted to support carers they would have brought in regulation of the sh*tshow that is the homecare sector by now. Current government has been farting around for years with this and missing every timeframe it set. Also, we've known for at least 15 years about the major problems in this sector.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/harney-warned-a-year-ago-on-home-care-regulations/26606651.html

...very emotional on radio 1, fair play to him, most citizens want to see more supports for such situations

Reactionary rubbish.

The arrogance of those in power and campaigning for the yes voted has derailed them and for the good. Who the fcuk do they think they are brushing aside ordinary peoples questions and fears over health, housing and immigration calling the vast majority of decent people FAR RIGHT thugs. Ye got yer answer yesterday start listening to the people roll on local and general elections.

And realistically that won't happen.

Referendum rarely translate to GE so I'm not sure why people are getting so swept up in the result of this. The people were asked 2 questions, the majority have said no to what was put infront of them. That's grand, that's democracy, move on from it in the days and weeks ahead.

Local and Europeans in May will give an idea of where the vote is going.

Donohue - maybe, but Harris is no better than McEntee or Varadkar.

In my opinion on the care one of they wanted to change the wording so it's less sexist it's easy, remove her and woman, leave the rest, but there's a lot of backhandedness going on, when they remove economical, and add strive to support, as money can be instant and a set figure, strive to support your put on yet another list. For how many years.