March 8th - What’s your vote? **Mod Note In Post #677**

Labour's biggest problem is their leader, Bacik is a clown who should really be in the greens. She is as far removed from "Labour" as could be, even AK47 was somewhat more suitable. Her, and by extension Labour were falling over themselves to be ahead of the government that were actually promoting the constitutional changes, regardless of whether it was correct or not, as she/they have to be seen to be most progressive. Was comical hearing her giving out about how it was all the governments fault yesterday.

She's a champagne socialist, 30 years of swanning around trinity and the seanad, working for a "labour" movement while living in leafy portobello. Only interested in progressive issues that were typically left (i.e. abortion, gay marriage etc.), forgetting what the name of the party actually means or represents. Labour used to be the only game in town for lefty issues, but have been superseded by the greens, sd's and even sf. There was gains to be made trying to reclaim some working class vote, but they didnt go for it

listening to Brendan O’Connor on RTE and he has a female journalist on who mentioned the influence of NGO on government policy and the unhappiness of TD’s that they have this influence. I’m delighted this is been called out. We seriously need to look at the taxpayers euro that’s going to these organisations.

The way that anti trans comments has forced its way into this thread since the result is quite sad.

I think the problem is caused by defining politics as simple left and right. In the past, Labour would have been to the left economically (where much of their traditional electorate would have been), but have certainly shifted right since Joan Burton's tenure. Socially they have shifted hard left whereas, from my experience, much of the traditional Labour electorate would have been indifferent or fairly conservative on social issues.

Spoken like a true man of the cloth!

The mods have done a great job of removing them.

Pippa hacket another green minister on tv now. who is absolutely useless.

I know that a new colleague has been unable to get a GP having moved here. As of last month not a single GP practice was accepting new patients in Lucan, Leixlip, Celbridge, or Maynooth.

Deputy O’Cathasaigh, however, said this strategy was unlikely. 

“There's very few TDs who are going to be packing their bags with a bunch of empty coke cans to the local Centra in order to get a deposit on it,” he said. 

There it is. The little people can do it but we won't be.

It’s a huge issue in Drogheda. I only got a GP place because my wife was already there.

We dodged a bullet with this referendum.

I think the genie is out of the bottle.

People no longer trust the government or the media.

It's a dangerous situation to be in. You can see what happened in the US.

The politicians in power and those waiting on the wings and the general media need to take a long hard look at themselves.

It's a small prosperous island country. And we are squandering billions and leaving people with no hope for the future. It should not be this hard. We should not be in this situation.

The more I think about this, the sweeter it is. One of the best parts is the backfiring of the hubristic strategy of having the vote on International Women's Day. Can just imagine multiple politicians and NGO reps preparing their reactions in advance, each one trying to out do the other "a historic and momentous day for Ireland and fitting that it happened on international women's day". LOL.