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Tesla Supercharger network in Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,880 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    It's very busy at night. Actually it's busy all the time. I'm just over 10 minutes away and I would drop over once or twice a fortnight after 9 and I've always had to wait. And yes there's always at least one taxi there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,563 ✭✭✭eagerv


    Was the sales part open or was it evening? I suppose I can understand the building being locked up at night/weekend (Though not satisfactory from a toilet point of view), but surely on a weekday you can get through to the toilets via the show room?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,143 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Tbh lads I've never seen as many complaints about free food and drinks at a charging area. You're lucky they ever had these. There in the middle of anywhere in the States with nothing attached. Should be in and out charging in 10 15 mins anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,358 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Sale part open with staff, it was 3pm of a thursday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭wassie


    Would be nice if you could roll up to a charging station most times and not have to wait 10-15 minutes just to get on a charger in Dublin.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,143 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Seems a better ask than a catered cabin with bathroom and seats....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,880 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Both the car and the app showing 2 free chargers. Except none were free. The guy in front was being told the same on his car and app.

    Had a great chat with a couple of guys there this afternoon. Always good to shoot the breeze with some fellow EV heads!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Last time I was there I was told there would be a 25 minute wait, which went up to 35 minutes when I got near, when I got there I waited 5 minutes, not exactly a complaint I'll admit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Things about to get a bit better.

    Dublin 2nd site, new site in NW and Sandyford expansion, as well as NI West (Derry?) all before 2024 is over.

    Also, Castlebellingham & Birdhill are safe from the chop…




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,077 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    I thought the most interesting part that was shared was that ESB have jumped on the containerised substation bandwagon which should help with deployments for all networks.

    I'd guess that all the sites with EU funding will need to be open access.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,271 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Those with free SuC smiling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭big_show


    That's some pretty sweet news, wheres the source for that screenshot @AndyBoBandy ?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,271 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    And lets hope 8+ stalls at every "open" location.

    Remember Tesla has expansion plans a few years back and nothing happened so here's hoping



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    The head honcho's of both the U.K. & Irish Tesla owners facebook groups had a meeting with Tesla, and posted the results in the group.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,271 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    ..and they should really open up Castlebellingham straight away, always deserted when I charge there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    At a guess I'd say as part of the deal with Applegreen to keep Superchargers there & Birdhill, is that they are not opened. ever. (or at least until Applegreen still have a say at the sites in question)...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    This could be interesting also, and perhaps help them achieve their ambitious targets here…. Essence grid connection takes so long…

    Megapack is 3.9MWh right? which would put ~50kWh in 78 cars before it's emptied itself.... and a steady 50kW feed would put 1.2MWh into it in 24 hours... so therefore it could comfortably put out 200kWh per hour for 24 hours before it would start to struggle... so yeah... will definitely work here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,358 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Yes that was my first thought. I'd say the agreement is like a "white peace" in wartime. IE: you can keep your sites, but no more at AG sites and you can't open up.

    Can't see that here, I think the most likely outcome is that Tesla are going to build more sites that are open to all and avail the state funding that was announced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    But anyway;

    meanwhile in Sandyford;




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭BigAl81


    Brilliant news, thanks for sharing!


    Delighted to see Castlebellingham stay put as I use that regularly!! And anything at all in the North West will be a great help too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Yeah, and you'd hope that the one planned for 'west' Northern Ireland would be in or around Derry.. so all of a sudden if that gets done, and a site in Sligo/Mayo direction, we are sorted... then expansion is the name of the game..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,358 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Best EV to tow that yoke out of the way is parked beside it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭talla


    Is there really anything new here though apart from the Applegreen sites remaining and some vague future promises?

    Ecars get dragged over the coals constantly regarding their roll out plan and this is just the same smoke and mirrors as them.

    A site in North Dublin was anoounced probably about 18 months ago so its just re-issuing previous plans.

    The site for the North West, my guess this will be Cavan as that was the last site you could actually vote for a Super Charger.


    As for Sandyford, I can't see how they would fit any extra Superchargers, there is no space. So unless its a brand new site, I can see that happening.

    Northern Ireland site probably Derry but as thats UK not really relevant to ROI operations.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,271 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    It's different when there's a new hire that's going to have to justify his/her role, that extra push makes all the difference, it's up to him/her to make a role for themselves and not delivering the plan weakens the role



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭innrain


    For Sandyford upgrade they can use customer car park. Aerial view shows "plenty" of space vs the actual space used for the current SuC. The current 4 stalls are too little. I pass by the place few times everyday and is almost never available. I was hoping the ecars new hub at the park might alleviate the queues but that is also almost 2 months installed and waiting for the connection.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭iniall


    I wouldn't have thought Cavan could be described as being in the North West? Hopefully it's Donegal, which is a bit of a wasteland when it comes to charging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭talla


    Would love it to be Donegal as I'm based there but don't think there is the through traffic.

    "If" a site is going in Derry, there is no way a site would go in Donegal, unless we're talking about the Kerry style super charger site which is no better than a basic e-cars site.

    THe only other logical place is Sligo area but with an Ionity site planned for there, again may not be the through traffic.

    "South Donegal" is actually ok for charging at this stage with sites that actually allow charging of more than one car in Laghy, Donegal Town and Letterkenny.

    Its the North of the county thats the problem but again I can't see it financially viable for an Ionity hub or Tesla Super Chargers apart for the months of July & August.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭markpb


    A 2021 MX? What unicorn land did that come from?

    A Supercharger site in north-west Cavan would serve a lot of the N3 and give pretty much any Tesla enough range to get to north Donegal and back again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 520 ✭✭✭lukas8888


    Carrick On Shannon would be even more suitable than Sligo would catch a lot more traffic.

    L



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    I expect that Tesla will make decisions on where their Supercharger sites should be located with a lot of factors in mind, where passing traffic each day must be a significant factor? For each of the existing sites in Ireland, they are primarily located:

    1) along a busy national primary route

    2) close to a center of population

    To me the North West likely means the N4 just south of Sligo which captures both the Dublin - Sligo and the Donegal - Sligo - Galway traffic. At over 20,000 vehicles per day, it has similar levels of traffic as Birdhill, Athenry or Enfield.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭micks_address


    hi folks,

    Apologies if i missed this but is the super charger network in Ireland/Uk open to non tesla cars now? I know there was a pilot running with 1 site in the Uk and a few in the EU.. but has that changed?

    Cheers,

    Mick



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,358 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Two sites in Ireland are open, most remain closed thankfully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭micks_address




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,358 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Its in the app, you can filter for sites open to all tesla under "charge my non tesla". I think it's athenry and enfield thats open



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭micks_address


    thanks dont use public chargers often but nice to have more options when the need arises.. pity the durrow site isnt open as that's often empty when im there on the way to cork



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭CivilEx


    Some minor rebranding going on in the app, where it's now "Charge your EV", but exactly the same whereby Athenry and Enfield are still the only sites open to non Tesla owners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭cc


    You can filter for open superchargers here also quite easily https://www.tesla.com/en_ie/findus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,237 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Skopje has risen to the top in the current quarter of voting. Has its time finally come?

    5 weeks is a long time to stay out in front.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,358 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Those votes don't mean anything its just a way to "monetize" engagement for free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,237 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I'd agree for any of the sites down the list. I think the ones that figure highly are considered as a valid indicator of demand for that area, even if they're not the outright winner. Bangor in North Wales didn't top the vote but was deemed a 'winner'. Nor did Thessaloniki, but after a couple of strong quarters it got the nod in Q3 last year. Both very welcome.

    Would be great if the Maldron at the Ross Roundabout could be persuaded to host a charger. Would serve both the N11 and N25 and ticks the necessary facilities boxes.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 899 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


    What's this about? I've been to Częstochowa, a very important religious centre in Poland - the Lourdes of Poland you could say. Residents wouldn't be exactly flush with cash to buy Tesla's unlike those in nearby Katowice, Krakow or Wrocław which is further afield.

    Having said that Skopje as beautiful as it is wouldn't have too many Tesla's floating about either.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,358 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    That would be a great spot, maybe 20mins from my house in the only direction that isnt currently supported by a SuC



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,237 ✭✭✭✭josip


    There's a "Macedonian Gap" (450km) in the Tesla SuC network, between the last SuC coming from central Europe (Aleksinac) and the first SuC in Greece, currently Larissa, but Thessaloniki should be operational next year. So any Tesla driving to Greece has to go local to get across the gap. Chargers in Macedonia resemble the ECars network in Ireland 10 years ago, free but most only accessible by Makedonski with an RFID card when they're not ICED or out of order. There would also be a small population of Macedonians who work abroad and drive home. But I suspect most of the votes are coming from Greeks and people from other countries driving to Greece.



  • Registered Users Posts: 899 ✭✭✭ColemanY2K


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,237 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Is there anyone here on the Polish Tesla Owner's Facebook Group? Has an orchestrated campaign recently started there to get the Polish SuC candidates to the top of the Q1 voting?

    Until 2 or 3 days ago, the Polish sites were all outside the top 5, thousands of votes adrift, having averaged 300 votes or less per day during Jan/Feb. But for the past few days the Polish sites have been increasing by 2,000 per day. Having initially fought off a strong Romanian challenge and latterly a prolonged push by the Hungarians, it looks like Skopje is going to be knocked off the top.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,774 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Huge diaspora maybe?

    I asked here and on facebook for spare votes for the Lithuanian site (when it was showing), and it did get a bit of a boost in numbers...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,237 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Definitely the diaspora numbers could account for the total number of votes, but wouldn't account for why the number of votes for Polish sites increased seven-fold in the past few days compared to the previous 70 days voting.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,271 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Do we really think this influences Tesla's plans?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,237 ✭✭✭✭josip


    The top 5 usually do get an SuC down the line somewhere, especially if they have a strong showing in multiple quarters. The need for an SuC at that location was probably already known to Tesla and sometimes the rollout timescales are so long as to be pointless (2026). For a small market like Ireland I don't think there's any point voting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Update today, looks like it will be one of the 13 promised by the end of 2025. 3 still promised by the end of 2024

    A pity they have chosen a town that also has an ecars and Ionity sites and is only 53km down the motorway from Ballacolla



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