How painful is breaking a leg?

How would I know that?

As I said, you are making a case (such as it is)

You do the work.

Re: the other politician: she withdrew her case when it was found she was telling porkies about how the injury affected her.

Unless M. G, had the hospital in on it, there was no doubt she broke her leg.

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Tore my quad muscle. Ripped it from the bone. Vomitted and couldnt breath with the pain.

Compound fracture to my shin bone. Didnt look great but nowhere near the pain of a proper muscle injury in my opinion.

Also tore ankle ligaments. Excrutiating. The thing with ligaments is you will never get them right again. Breaks heal fine.

Assuming the stairs have been used 1000s times a day since 1745 is absolutely an unreasonable assumption. Completely ludicrous. Estimating the use at 365k x 270 years just shows unawareness of it's history. It's a public stairs, it's used often. That's it.

Assuming a stairs built in 1700s is safe compared to modern standards is a bit of a leap too. It's not even a given that the stairs was built in 1745. I'd be surprised if it was tbh. Leinster house is a big complex, it's not all from 1745, and even within the original part, there are multiple stairs that have likely been replaced. I'd be surprised if all the stairs where compliant to current standards (in fact, I know they are not). I don't think we know which stairs she fell down.

Besides, her falling had nothing to do with the stairs or a handrail (what's the obsession?). As the article clear states, he foot got stuck on a grate on the landing, she tripped and fell down the stairs. The issue, if you wanted to find one, would most likely be the grate. Bizarre digging up of an incident from 12 years ago.

Assuming the stairs have been used 1000s times a day since 1745 is absolutely an unreasonable assumption. Completely ludicrous. Estimating the use at 365k x 270 years just shows unawareness of it's history. It's a public stairs, it's used often. That's it.

Assuming a stairs built in 1700s is safe compared to modern standards is a bit of a leap too. It's not even a given that the stairs was built in 1745. I'd be surprised if it was tbh. Leinster house is a big complex, it's not all from 1745, and even within the original part, there are multiple stairs that have likely been replaced. I'd be surprised if all the stairs where compliant to current standards (in fact, I know they are not). I don't think we know which stairs she fell down.

Besides, her falling had nothing to do with the stairs or a handrail (what's the obsession?). As the article clear states, he foot got stuck on a grate on the landing, she tripped and fell down the stairs. The issue, if you wanted to find one, would most likely be the grate. Bizarre digging up of an incident from 12 years ago imo.

For gods sake,I have broken more bones than any comment I have read on here but ye are missing the point of the thread ,read the op and give a " political" opinion on it.

Definitely an adrenalin rush, I used to fight amateur MMA before I did my ACL and when you are in a fight you don't feel a thing, punches , kicks dont hurt its after the pain comes.

And why did she fall?

The recent article wasn't published to report on the case, it was published to try and get some dirt on a prospective candidate in an election here. It was therefore designed for people who will rush off and put 2 and 2 together and get 50.

Slight anomaly in the campaign though. Having appealed to our emotions on other threads on behalf of granny and everyone else potentially falling, you would think the campaigner would be supportive of somebody who did fall,

But no, a whole thread has been opened to undermine one faller and to express doubt about her injury.

Curious.

I understand how you got to the 100m figure. (365k a year x 280years). I’m saying it’s ludicrous..

You just pulled 1000 times a day average out of thin air - that is exactly why is ridiculous. It simply wouldn’t have been used with frequency in the 1700s and 1800s (basic history knowledge needed there). Besides what's the point of this makey-uppy number. Say its 10m or 100m. So what?

he 00.01% claim is similarly nonsense. That would be 1 in 10,000. You're claiming somebody falls down the stair every 10 days, and this is a huge cost to taxpayers. LMFAO. I've been in Leinster House too. There are more than one staircase. The story doesn't say which one it involved. You better go and check them all. I'd imagine the back of house stairs are not as grand the the main stair.

Why are we lucky Biden didn't fall? What would have happened? Maybe we were only saved due to Biden's familiarity with the layout of Leinster House. That was a close one. LoL.

Or, maybe the stairs are fine and there's rarely incident. I mean, Michelle Gildernew didn't even fall on the stair. She trip on the landing, before she was on the stair. The form of the stairs is irrelevant.

We are lucky when anybody doesn't fall. Why single out Biden?

Where the 'mericans gonna invade if Joe had an accident? Pull FDI? Throw the shamrock back at Leo?

What possible difference does Biden falling make?

I agree the question about how the pain if a leg break is a red herring. But I don't think this is a Shinner thing. It's an obsession with stairs. I'm surprised the stats for people dying after falls has not been wheeled out yet.

Adrenalin will do a lot in the moment. Also, and likely in the case of the Xmas party story, alcohol hides a lot of pain until the morning.

If Biden fell down the stairs, it would have been embarrassing for him. And almost 50% of Americans would been happy with it. I fail to see how it would have been different if if were Leinster House or the White House. again, maybe he was only saved because he was familar with the layout. Crisis averted

I've had two leg breaks in my time. One was a double compound fracture to the tibia and fibula, after the initial period of shock it was the most severe pain I've ever experienced and still gives me hassle decades later.....the other one I found out was broken over a week after the incident.

So really the only conclusion I can come to is, "rabble rabble, Sinn Fein.....b*stards"

Biden would first have had to prove negligence on the part of the owners to seek compensation and could be awarded up to 85,000ish if he succeeded. Anyone can fall and nobody may be negligent.

Should a grating, in which part of a shoe could get caught thus causing a trip, have been there, would be nub of the Gildernew case. It has nothing to do with age or the seriousness of the injury.

If you think that M. G. did not deserve compensation your issue is with PIAB who assessed the claim and accepted she had a case/

Do you get that part of all this?

Presumably the compensation was due to the fact it was cause by the grate. Either the size of the gaps, or it was simply broken.

What’s the issue with knee high boots? No more dangerous than “normal” boots coming halfway up the calf. Id say a bigger culprit is high heels that have zero support and a stiletto heels. Get stuck way easier.

You can't see all the stairways on the Virtual tour of Leinster House but in this still you can see the type of grating it probably was.

That is what happened.

*That one doesn't appear to be broken or capable of trapping a heel. Possibly upgraded or modified. Which is of course a good thing.

Extensive renovations since 2012