Boeing 737 Max

Also, given potential delays with the Max-10, it makes sense for FR to consider other Max variants. In fact, this is something they could probably have done previously had they wanted to, since there have been lots of Max-8s parked in the USA as a result of non-acceptance by other customers (in China particularly). This stock is reduced now but there may still be aircraft parked at Moses Lake WA and other sites.

Having said that, the article does seem to focus on Ryanair's plans for the Max-10, should UA step away from its orders for that variant.

Suddenly the Comac 919 is very attractive now to Chinese airlines...

At this stage where production is months/years away a delivery slot is just a 737MAX, so if another airline pulls out its no problem get a 737 Max 8200 spec, apart from the additional exits its identical to a MAX8

The bigger problem is the MAX10, will it ever be certified, same for the MAX7. If you want a MAX7 you are better looking at A220-300 now, if MAX10, you want A321NEO and decide how big fuel tank you want.

I don't think O'Leary will get the discount people think he will. No doubt Boeing will find slots on the small chance that UA doesn't take those birds, but I reckon they could even simply be converted to MAX 8s/9s. But MO'L might take whatever price is offered if it means more aircraft in a shorter timespan? I'm unsure on the official delivery timeframe of the UA MAX 10s now.

Have FR ever considered the MAX 9? I suppose they'd need a "-200" higher capacity version, which I assume would necessitate the additional emergency exit door. Without entering a discussion about plugs and bolts, would a hypothetical MAX-9200 fit into the FR ecosystem? I think due to the -10 order, multiple variants in their fleet isn't as insane as some would lead you to believe.

Another issue not widely discussed is that the former 787 and 747 lines at Everett were supposed to switch to 737-8200 and 737-10 production but the FAA have frozen these lines until the QA issues are resolved. In the next 5 years or so those lines were supposed to produce approx 1,000 airframes. These airframes have already been ordered. The longer this freeze continues (combined with -7 and -10 delays due initial certification issues) the bigger this snowball gets.

Stored 737 Max airframes at Moses Lake, October 2023. Most were for Chinese operators but it's not clear if they will all be taken up at this stage.

How much cheaper is boeing than airbus

Is it really true that airbus won't deal with Ryanair .

Bit of a shot in the foot if true

Ya so O'Leary not that smart considering there's only 2 players

There are 4.

Comac the Chinese manufacturer and Tupolev who are russian.

O'Leary previously tried to use them as a stalking horse when negotiating but they were not serious contenders.

The Ryanair business model relies on maximising efficiencies in every possible way - all of their fleet has a common type rating, for example. A move to all-Airbus or a mixed fleet would be a major undertaking and the numbers would really need to add up for this to happen, I'd say.

I accept that the Russian offering may be lacking.

In the middle term the Chinese offering may be useful.

A poster claimed there are "only" 2.

At heart both A320 & B737 are regional jets.

That would be a reason for Ryanair not to deal with Airbus but not a reason for Airbus to not deal with Ryanair.

Maybe Boeing would be smart enough to know that any talks between Ryanair and Airbus were for show and not budge on price., In this case there would be no incentive for either Ryanair or Airbus to put on a show.

It has been 27 years since McDonnell Douglas merged with Boeing. I'd say its all Boeing.

Prelim report for Alaska Airlines is out: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA24MA063.aspx

Summary is that 4 bolts were not installed at the time of the accident