Anti Immigration Sentiment

So there you have it, immigration is not the problem. Building of houses and infrastructure is and in order to do that we're going to need more immigrants.

Can you not see that immigration is not the problem here but a failure in planning and investment. Housing projects blocked by nimbyism thanks to draconian planning laws. Same laws restricting height in buildings creating urban sprawl and huge commuter belts.

Lack of investment in transport, hospitals etc leading to problems with services.

That's the problem. poor government and management not immigration.

You seem to be avoiding the main issue. I doubt anyone has a problem with either visa, refugee program, or EU freedom of movement migration to Ireland.

Yes, and the vast majority of immigration into Ireland is through Visa entry, refugee program or EU freedom of movement so I don't see what point I am missing.

Why would the Government be planning in advance for huge incoming transfers of sub-populations in the first place though?

You have attempted to show that, maybe, we could hypothetically have enough space for large numbers of new people. You haven't said why this is desirable for anyone other than asset owners and the big employers.

That is why, I think, the debate often takes an orthogonal turn into double-negative accusations around racial attitudes. But "Prove you aren't motivated by racism" is not a positive prescription: it doesn't tell us why we must bring in masses of foreign people to begin with. It only tells us that people who don't want to do this are bad people.

That loops back to my first comment on this thread: do you and others understand the mechanism of 'economic growth' in this context, who benefits specifically and in what way, and are you prepared to defend it on that basis?

It's not anti immigration sentiment, it's anti bogus asylum seekers and people living off the State 10 or 20 years without getting a job. It's anti - Jihadi ideology as well. Face it, we don't want to import people possessed by Jihadi ideology into Ireland. We just don't, so accept it or move aside.

We have a serious problem here, and it's a clear tactic to try to slur that with the catch all "anti-immigration" nonsense, as if anyone at all has a problem with a foreign doctor or nurse coming into the country.

Those who don't enter under those criteria require direct provision and other supports outside of the agreed and negotiated refugee programs. Visa and EU migrants are expected to be self supporting. There is a big difference.

There has not been enough planning for the naturally growing population of Ireland. Simple.

Why do you think property prices have increased so much in the last 30 years? Economy became successful and grew and government planning has not kept up.

Many services have been in crises for years well before immigration started to get attention.

Also immigration is desirable. It brings lots of benefits, innovation, economic growth. The most vibrant cities and countries in the world are ones that thrive on immigration.

How did the USA become such a successful economy? Everything that country has created is based on immigration, a huge part Irish and the country would not be the same without it. Then look at countries that have less immigration like Russia, Japan, iran etc and how their economies stagnate or countries slip into despotic rule.

Really, people need to stop viewing immigration as this terrible thing and realise what it brings as the vast majority who emigrate are those that work and contribute to society and improve them and are not sponging off the state as many claim.

Yes and the numbers who don't enter under those criteria are tiny as evidenced above.

The person who committed the awful attack last week did not come through an illegal channel and neither did the rioters who tried to wreck Dublin.

Some folks do actually have a problem with foreign doctors and nurses coming into the country. I've heard the abuse they can get in hospitals first hand.

I've a good few Indian friends and they all work in high paid tech jobs and are incredibly smart, intelligent people. Pay a lot of tax like the rest of us on their income - also get abuse hurled at them on a regular basis.

There's a racist undercurrent in this country among a certain cohort of people and as an Irish person you'd potentially never see it at all as you're the correct colour.

I don't think either is ok, but my anger is at the government for not fixing a broken system, not people taking advantage of the system.

Thats because some people can't tell the difference, but doesn't make it untrue that we have a serious problem with bogus asylum seekers, long term welfare and the importation of jihadi ideology into this country.

If you care for those indian doctors, then solve that problem so people will calm down about the situation.

"Serious problem"

Less than 1% of people on welfare have been on it for more than 10 years

Less than 1% of immigrants have come here illegally

As for jihadi ideology, I don't know where to start with that, and likely you don't either.

I don't think we have a serious problem. I think some people wrongly blame legitimate hard working immigrants for social problems instead of our inept government.