Jozef Puska guilty of murder of Ashling Murphy (Mod notes and threadbans in op)

This is the problem with the narrative the media have been trying to push - most people who are “anti-immigrant” (which as I said earlier has lost all meaning) are not batshit crazy, far right loons who live on the fringes of society.

They are normal everyday, educated, working people who see what a drain these types of immigrants are having on our country, and think a mature conversation needs to be had.

Yes, we have Irish murders. But up until the murder was committed, how could we have stopped it happening? However, if we had to have applied the rule that EU citizens must be able to support themselves and therefore they get deported/no welfare, there’s every chance Puska wouldn’t have been living here to murder Ashling.

To be fair, if anyone is qualified to speak on being a dole monkey and a danger to women, it's Britain's Conor McGregor.

This is just not true. People from countries with different values or horrific poverty or war etc. Will be vastly different to the average Irish person

Environment plays a huge role in human conditioning.

Its ignorant to believe we can all get together in a big melting pot, mingle and compete for resources without issues.

Humans are animals at the end of the day. We're territorial, tribalist and savage. Its a recipe for disaster imo.

No, the issue is that we have no means to stop an Irish person carrying out a murder in Ireland.

But if an unemployed person from Slovakia, who was granted a 5 bedroom council house, and been living off welfare for years commits a murder, people are entitled to ask why was he living here in the first place to commit the murder.

What is ignorant is implying that there are no issues if a homogenous society exists.

Humans are inherently collaborative its proved throughout history as people/tribes/races inherently have sought to mix and intertwine more and more.

Of course there are tribal elements, but the much more proven motivation is towards integration. It ultimately leads to a safer society as if you maintain division you are much likely to see conflict at a macro scale while still having the individual acts of crime and violence carried out by and on individuals at a a local level.

but sure he could have had a job and still committed the murder? i lived abroad for years and could have murdered someone, whether i was getting council housing or not doesn't really make me more likely to murder does it? i had an irish friend from limerick in london who got a council flat from lambeth council, if he turned around and murdered someone one day, i'm not really sure why that would be relevant.

Humans have raped pillaged and plundered throughout their history.

The fact that homogeneous societies would still have issues is my point. Even in a homogeneous society humans will find differences and tribalism.

Yet you think it's a good idea to jettison humans from the other side of the world into those socities?

Between travel and connectivity the 21st century has brought about a melting pot that we've never quite experienced before.

Wrong, people would still be posting due to it been a very shocking murder. If your not able to accept people talking about basic facts then I'd recommend staying away from the internet.

And here we have the racist card again being used when I question why we don’t implement EU rules for immigration 👏👏 The EU must be awful racist to even have that rule in the first place 🙄

There's a difference between an Irish deadbeat scrounger criminal, and a migrant with the same "qualities".

We can't do anything about the native - he's a drain on society but he's Irish so we have to put up with him.

But a migrant who comes into this country and contributes nothing (not to mention commits crimes) should be sent back to where he came from.

“Humans have raped pillaged and plundered throughout their history.”

Yes and they always will, because it’s part of our nature even if it’s difficult to accept.

Care to show where I said I don’t care, rather than how we can’t really prevent an Irish person carrying out a murder? Otherwise you’re just talking nonsense.

If Josef Puska hadn't left Slovakia, chances are Ashling Murphy would still be alive and doing all those things Ryan mentioned. Puska didn't care who he targeted that day.

Who said Irish people cant be prevented from murdering? Thats even a ridiculous suggestion! You can have a lot more refuges so that women can leave domestic violence before they get murdered, you can provide much more education generally within the population to reduce the amount of men who murder. There are many many things that could be done. And even again this shows you want to target lots of non murderers just because of their nationality.