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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,493 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm



    New MG dealership to open in Enniscorthy in Wexford. Works have started on the old VW showroom where they'll be located.



  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭crl84


    The benefits of gentle driving 😂

    Round trip to Belfast this morning, 393km and still 19% left.

    Stuck it in cruise control of 90km/h on the motorway, had some traffic coming into Belfast so a bit slower there as well as through the city, and slow on the M50/M4 home reducing the average speed further. Had the aircon on all the way.

    Have done the trip 3 times now and last 2 times just did a quick charge on the M1, but thought I'd test the range a little as I've never had it below 25% since buying.

    I doubt it would actually get to 498km as the G-O-M suggests, but would certainly expect the WLTP of 435KM to be well beaten....





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭fafy


    New promotion until October 14th:





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Just enquired about one myself. 41k on the road including all dealer charges, does that sound about right ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    For which model? They are discounting the range until the 14th of October according to the post above yours. If you are going for the Exclusive trim with a standard paint colour, then it looks like they are adding 5k in dealer charges to your order!!!! When I ordered one in December, the dealer charges were less than 1k. Here is where the offer is listed on the MG Website: Autumn Offer (mg.ie), perhaps point your dealer to this and ask them to re-evaluate their price.

    The offer does not apply if you are going with their Finance offerings BTW, so that may be why they have quoted you 41k. At that rate, I would be looking to finance it independently of MG and work the deal like a cash sale to get the discount.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Ya I was thinking that, I'm going to query it with them again and even with another dealer for comparison



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,325 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Very few people will be buying in cash. How generous of them...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    Signed up for an MG4 a month ago, turned down their finance as I had Credit Union loan lined up, immediately offered 2K discount which I thought was odd, not told about it beforehand or previous week when browsing. That it only applies if you DON'T use their financing here confirms my suspicions. Did find it when I went looking on the main MG Ireland website but nothing about it on the local garage website at all.

    Got 18K trade in for 3 year old EV, would have gotten 20K if going for other brands they offer in that garage, told it was because I was going for MG. Did try to sell my old EV on DoneDeal but got zero enquiries, but what do you do! Very Happy with MG4 now SE long range trim. R21 Software which seems to be stable. Spare spare saver Tyre purchased just in case!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭OEP


    Anyone have young kids? Can it comfortably fit pram, car seat etc?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,027 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Once you arrange your finance elsewhere (bank, credit Union etc) you are then a cash buyer to the dealer. Easy to do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,012 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Have we any idea on when the Extended Range (not the Long Range model) with the 77kWh battery is coming into Ireland? It has a guide of about 520km, which if 450km in real life is beginning to suit nicely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭Ionised


    Was talking to a sales guy a couple of weeks ago and was under the impression that they will have pricing etc by the end of September. Possibly a demo in October.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,012 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Excellent, thanks. Likely won't be buying until mid 2024 or 2025 even, but the MGs really are the first EVs that are beginning to fit the bill for me. Decent range and not outrageous pricing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 jocombo


    Yeah, I do. We have two car seats in the back, with isofixes which fit comfortably. The pram is in the boot (alongside the chargers for now) but wouldn't fit much more in there without being organised. It's a great car for the price range



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Hey all!

    Sooooo my new MG4 was delivered a while ago loving it so far! , ive binded the car to the app though and its not showing up, does it take a while to appear?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭Patser


    Can't really remember, but think it was fairly quick for me.....not delayed long enough for me to worry about it anyway.


    Welcome to the club..... one of us! one of us! one of us!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,930 ✭✭✭zg3409


    Depends on pram and car seat. It's a medium size car, many "family" cars would be bigger.

    Examples if you are tall and you have a 360 degree rotating car seat then you may not have room for driver and car seat directly behind. If kids are older the front facing or booster seats may be ok.

    Boot is not small but if you have double buggy and want to bring 2 or 3 suitcases away for a weekend it may not be big enough or you may need to remove wheels from buggy.

    The only real way to know is to bring actual car seats to the dealer and adjust driver's seat to normal position. I have done just that in the past. We went to a used dealer and tested 2 different brand of cars one after another and ruled out the smaller one as 360 rotating seats and driver would not fit.

    It's definitely not a small car, one thing to share is your current car and we might be able to say if bigger or smaller.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭OEP


    Thanks!

    My first child isn't due until January so I'm clueless! Current car is a Ford Focus but we'll be buying a second car as opposed to replacing it. Trying to decide whether to get a bigger car or not. For one child, I'd imagine it'll be fine. And the focus will probably need to be replaced in a couple of years anyway, so by the time a second child arrives.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Hey all, back again, absolutely loving the car, got the app sorted! Global data wasn't turned on.


    Question about charging, any truth to not charging over 80% all the time to preserve battery ? I've access to free charge and would like to use it :)



  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭crl84


    It's one of those things that is debated around NMC batteries in many EVs. Unless you're regularly charging over 80% on rapid DC chargers, I wouldn't really worry tbh.

    If you're charging to 100% using an AC charger, I'd say a car will have been replaced/scrapped long before any noticeable issues with the battery life are apparent.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭Patser


    As above - it's 'recommended' but if you're using a home charger unlikely to have much of an impact until the very long term.


    One thing though, there is still a glitch if you try to preheat car when fully charged to whatever level you set. You turn on heating, car turns on charger, goes Oh I'm full, turns everything off. The work around is to either have car unplugged or start car charging to a higher level (as in charge to 90%, then select 100% to charge to) and then turn on preheat. If you charge to 100%, you don't have that buffer to preheat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Cheers all, i should be good on the preheart. ive only had it a few days but id say ill only be charging twice a week most weeks if even. I charged to 100% Friday and im only at 70% now :P two days of commuting coming up but ill top up at the office tomorrow and that should see me needing a top up on the home charger the weekend

    massively impressed by the car so far, first time in heavy traffic this evening with it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Alexander Shulgin


    The EU are looking at what they perceive is China "dumping " ev's to garner market share ! Eu manufacturers particularly VW have gotten van der leyens ear , I'd say it won't be long before tariffs are imposed shame , their priced for the average Joe, eu models priced around €60k are unrealistic & who wants to buy a used model not knowing how much longer the battery will last , AFAIK the MG Battery is the same Panasonic battery Tesla use so some track record there



  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭crl84


    No, the MG4 has two completely different battery types, depending on model, and both are manufactured by CATL.


    And as for the China/EU thing, this has been discussed in other threads already. VW sell far more in China than any Chinese manufacturer does in the EU. A trade war, with China imposing tarrifs on VW cars, is bad business for VW. It's the French who are pushing for tariffs but VW/Germany are unlikely to be trying to reduce their own sales.



  • Registered Users Posts: 557 ✭✭✭doctorg


    has anyone installed a reversing camera on the standard edition MG4?

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006012928137.html This apparently works with the infotainment system. Has anyone got this or something similar?



  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭crl84


    There's a few threads on the mgevs forum about doing it, haven't seen any hooking up to the infotainment though, think you'd need access to the software to do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    Picked up my MG4 three weeks ago. First long trip to Belfast yesterday. Got stuck at 30% up there as it wouldn't fast charge. Tried both BP Polar chargers, failed to start, then booked it down to an ESB one but another MG4 got in before me. Said he had the same trouble with BP but also issues using Applegreen on the M1. I went down to Lidl and tried EasyGo. Connected and started but got HV Battery Shut Off dash warning after 4 minutes, had to get charger rebooted. Tried 3 times with same outcome and not enough range to get home. Went to Dromore Go and tried ESB there, worked, also tried Ionity in City North and it worked great 140kW speed. So, what gives - I've heard about other cars with software issues, never wanted a piece of that! Had eCorsa previously and use all the chargers above without issue. Have car booked in to get checked but very disappointed. At least MG recovery (which is backed by AA) said they would recover from Belfast back to Dublin if required. I didn't bring my type 2 cable as I'd never had this bad an experience before. Charged at home fine for last few weeks but goes to show - watch out and bring contingency type 2 cable on your first long trip in a new car! Some noise on MG forums Uk about BP Polar charger issues and software problems with the EV charging controller so hope a software update will fix. Will have to test a few to make sure after any update. I'll also be hesitant after the annual service and assume the worst until I prove each charger brand still works and doesn't break again!

    Anyone else with fast charger issues & MG4 out there? Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,798 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    There is a SW update related to charging available, don't know if it is related to or would fix the problem you had.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    I'm hoping so, they can't tell me until they get my car in - can't log a case with MG until then either but will contact MG for info. UK forums seem to indicate there is an update for the charging software but only if requested. I'm hoping that's the case anyway. Had R21 from get go (SE long range).



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  • Registered Users Posts: 992 ✭✭✭crl84


    Yes, issues with some software communication thing with BP fast chargers, apparently other makes have the same issue. There's an update available as JPA says. Not sure why it only seems to be the BP ones.

    I'm up and down to Belfast a bit with work and haven't tried BP chargers up there yet, but might do next week. First few times I just did a quick fast charge at Applegreen Bellingham on the way back, but last time I just took it easy and got home to west Dublin with 19% still on the battery. Might ring up Linders in a few weeks and specify this issue and Bluetooth unpairing, to get the latest infotainment version and any available updates, although they don't really make any difference to me at the moment.

    It's definitely worth raising it with the dealer and pushing them to confirm any updates that are available for the charging controller are applied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 theinferior



    I had a similar terrible experience up north recently. Again, none of the fast chargers I tried would work. Managed to make it home by driving at 80MPH on the motorway. Took it into the garage and they said, "Well, it's working fine on our fast charger." So they did nothing. Worked for me too on an EasyGo at the local Lidl :(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,527 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    So you made it home by speeding. Maybe if you had of drove whitin the speed limit and more economically you would have made it home too. How much battery had you left when you got home?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭dsandson


    The MG4 wont work with BP Pulse chargers (the ones with the integrated battery - currently all of them). An EVANI member tried to work out what was happening and found all MG4s wont charge on them. BP Pulse told them they had looked into it with MG previously and that it was an issue with the MG4's charge port software.

    However even the local MG dealership in Derry couldnt get MG to accept that there was a problem. The guy even tried the new X-Power trim and it wouldnt work either.

    If you travel to the North use Weev, EasyGo or ESB for DC charging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 theinferior


    Oops! I should have said "80Kph". Too much time spent up north, I guess!

    To answer your question, I got home with about 10%. Driving at 80Kph made an enormous difference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    EasyGo didn't work for me either - got a high voltage fault and it tripped the charger after 4 minutes, 3 times in a row. At least if I can get that fixed it would give me options. Pity about the BP ones as it worked fine with my Corsa-e. Will try again after the S/W update the next time I'm up but not a great outcome to moving to a new car!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭tlaavtech


    Looking at posibly getting an MG4 at some stage next year. Biggest worry from looking at reviews is the "agressive" lane assist and numerous "binging" warnings. What are the owners experiences with them? Are they as bad as the reviews would have me believe?

    Can the shortcut buttons on the steering wheel be programmed to disable the driver assist so that I don't have to go through the menus to disable for short journeys every time I get into the car?!

    Alternatively is there a OBDII app (LeafSpy equivalent) that can set the default to "off"?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭Patser


    Still my biggest bug bear with the car, but not as bad as made out. When I 1st got the MG4 the Lane keep was very, very agressive, and it was recalled quickly and now I'd only describe it as agressive but copeable - I'm used to it and unlike at 1st doesn't actually try throw you into another lane, now just strongly hints at it, which is annoying but as a safety feature probably what is needed. And yes it beeps everytime it does this - but again, I'm used to it.

    A steering wheel button can be programmed to bring up driving modes to car, but after that you still have to have use screen to turn off - and do this everytime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭Simi


    Just get used to turning it off every time you get in the car. It's literally tried to kill me on multiple occasions. The other day it tried to steer me into a concrete wall for no reason I could fathom.

    I've tried it on the alert setting, but it still bings and vibrates the steering wheel endlessly when it's sunny. It's not fit for purpose and driving with it on is dangerous imo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭mode1990


    If you're a fan I'd buy sooner rather than later ! They're realistically obtainable for the most of us , however Verstager under German duress is investigating Chinese "dumping " of EV's , so tariffs are on the way !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    Got some software updates done on Friday so hope to try NI again this weekend - the same chargers, and see how I get on....will bring my type 2 cable this time just in case!

    Land Keep assist does nag and nudge but am getting used to it

    No sign of any more purchase incentives - seem to have expired after 14th October, assume they will do more next year so if buying keep an eye out - this years ran from mid august to mid October so wait a month or two after new license plates kick in or so what trade in deal you can get to max your value!

    Very enjoyable to drive - stock tyres in wet conditions worrying me a little bit though....



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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    What version is your infotainment running now? R46? Have been holding off getting it updated until that was available.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    I turn TLA off when I drive. My wife doesn't and whilst she doesn't like it, it's not terrible - more of an annoyance than anything. It's fine on good roads but I tend to drive back roads and if those back roads are marked, then it gets very annoying. You can't set it on the steering wheel shortcuts so you have to go through the main menu, but once you get into the habit, it's fine - no different to putting your seat belt on.

    Overall, very impressed with it and it's a great car. The boot space could be bigger but that's just my preference. I haven't charged it on a fast charger yet and all charging has been done at home, so I can't comment about any potential issues. I really should fast-charge it just to know how and ensure I have the right apps etc. However, I bought the car with the aim of only charging at home and it hasn't disappointed me as it has saved me around €240 per month - I was paying around €260 on diesel before the excise went up, and I have been mostly charging off my solar PV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    I've an Excite so I'm on R21 (MCU is 69.3.5.0). Executive gets R46. One advantage of Excite is less bugs!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭mike_2009


    No joy with latest software on MG4. Same issue with BP Polar and that EasyGo 50kW charger in Lidl. I think it's just that charger though - went to another not far away, also Tritium but different "brand" and it worked fine - 50kW also! Unfortunately the Dromore eCars charger was down for the day. Got home with 7% but was a door a door journey, my first in 3 years! So have alternatives for M1 trip but not made any easier by car incompatibilities. My previous eCorsa had no issues with both of these chargers before but had less range for this type of journey.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,457 ✭✭✭SharkMX


    if MG could write or even test software it would be a great car. But they cant and its becoming more obvious all the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,798 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    Have anybody bought a fitted rubber boot mat for the MG4? Ideally not coming from China.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    We've had our MG4 since May and overall we are very happy with it. We drive 140km round trip 4 or 5 days per week to work. We are almost at 20k kms already.

    We turn the lane assist off every time now before we start driving as it pushed us out in front of oncoming traffic a few times for no fathomable reason. I also turn it onto ECO driving mode to ground the back a bit more as I find it a bit slippy in wet conditions. I found it to be very slippy going around corners as well. We had one fish tailing experience when driving around a corner, on a damp road at around 35kmph which was quite scary. I've since read that a lot of this is typical of rear wheel driving.

    My question for other owners is have you changed your tyres to winter ones and if so which type? Owners on UK forums said they did change to winter tyres if they lived in rural areas. We live rurally and we would often have icey roads from November to March.



  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭DrPsychia


    It's not unreasonable to investigate such allegations. Cars made in regions with lower levels of income, poor workers rights, better manufacturing resources, less social protection, and with an abundance of rare earth elements are going to be cheaper than those made elsewhere. If the CCP are subsidising this advantage to crush competition then the EU have vested interests to protect domestic industry by imposing means necessary. If Chinese car manufacturers want to setup manufacturing facilities in Europe and bring their manufacturing prowess to produce cheaper cars while abiding by EU law then they're most welcome to.

    We can't have our cake and eat it. We all complain about how cars manufactured in Europe generally offer worse value for money compared to foreign brands but there are genuine reasons for it outside of pure greed and profiteering.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It could be just poor tyres fitted originally, i.e. ones with poor traction in wet conditions. Michelin CrossClimate or some other all weather tyre like Nokian Weatherproof or Vredestein Quatrac are great for Irish winter conditions and work rather well in cool rainy summers too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,494 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Another thumbs up for Crossclimates, much grippier in slippy, damp conditions than the original Michelin energy savers. Also with the added advantage of better grip and braking in low temperatures and being able to drive in snow without slipping and sliding all over the place.



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