USA 2024 presidential election

Williamson for all her flaws is a genuine leftist and running for sincere reasons. If you are left leaning and want to vote but find Biden to much I would suggest her in the primary or West (not that one!) for the Green party.

Yeah, he's a rapist

Ate you saying no kids were killed under Trump?

As for his promise to end the war in Ukraine, how do you think he can do that?

I wouldn't believe a word he says, he promised to stop drone strikes, under his command drone strikes increased so much that he stopped the reporting of them.

RFK's family have come out and publicly disassociated themselves from some of his comments, as they were offensive anti-semitic dog whistling. That's "freedom of speech" to some people.

She said: “My feelings about my brother Bobby’s recent statement regarding Covid and ethnic targeting are very much aligned with my brother Joe, sister Kerry, and nephew Joe III – all of whom I admire for speaking out against him. There is a great deal of hate in the world and remarks like Bobby’s only serve to fuel that hate. Such conspiracy mongering not only creates more divisiveness, it actually puts people’s lives in danger.”

Bi partisan approval of carpet bombing, well any bombing in the United States. You don't hear much about that.

This reply is called moving the goalposts

Not the first time the racist wingnut RFK jnr had family member disowing one of his vile public remarks.

This was his wife last year...

Even his wife, the actress Cheryl Hines, condemned the comment about Anne Frank.

“My husband’s reference to Anne Frank at a mandate rally in D.C. was reprehensible and insensitive,” she wrote on Twitter.

A quote from RFK Jr. in that interview

"And we’re making ethnic bio-weapons, bio-weapons that can only kill Russians, bio-weapons that the Chinese are making that can kill people who don’t have Chinese genes. So all of this is now within reach. We’re actively doing it, and we need to stop..."

And Mr. Great Interviewer just let's that nonsense go unchallenged. Lots more drivel from RFK Jr. throughout the interview, softballs galore from Fridman. He should stick to AI. I wonder what his interview with Kanye was like...

The more you tell people to listen to it, the less I think you actually have.

You're "not mad on the vaccine stuff", but that is what defines RFK. That is his main 'appeal' to the loons that support him in the US, everything else is just fluff - insane fluff, but fluff.

Very easy when its a made up story to get the details wrong on retelling. No anchor to truth.

Anyway a lot of garbage polling out their, but this crew have a stellar reputation and Iowa the first state is obviously important. Trump lost last time and can afford to lose again, but if he wins its over for the rest.

He has a nice lead , RDS not totally cooked but its an uphill fight for him, Scott the best of the rest but he needs a miracle here.

Most interesting of the also rans, Pence in such a strong evangelical state is going absolutely nowhere and Vivek who has got a lot of hype is at a mere 4%. The fear with Vivek despite all the hype was he merely just someone hot online or did he actually have real support outside the terminally onlinel?

This polls suggests the latter.

The hope the donors had the no hopers would drop out and they could all get behind one person to beat Trump most likely RDS.

The problem though is for quite a few no matter what they may think of Trump in private he winning the primary is fine for them.

Scott and Haley have refused to lay a glove on Trump who has had absolute zero reason to waste any time in criticising them, both have aspirations of been Trump's VP so they are going nowhere.

Then Vivek who many suspected and was pretty much confirmed today is running to peel away support from RDS. He doesn't need to worry about donor money as he is loaded so he will stay in the race as long as Trump needs to win.

Its going to be Trump bar some black swan event, its hard to have much pity for the GOP, maybe a blowout in 2024 may wake them up somewhat.

Yeah its quite cowardly and if I can spot it then well who can't?

Its also somewhat high risk as Trump isn't exactly known for his loyalty.

RDS for all his flaws will at least be able to say in 2028 he tried to win , what exactly can the other say?

Yeah, definitely feels like maybe they're thinking all the court cases will ultimately prevent him from running and they don't want to alienate his base as its probably the largest single block in the party (depressingly)

To me Christie, Haley and Pence came out strongest. Ramaswamy was a bit of a clown tbh. I guess he will do well with the MAGA crowd.

I know it wasn't surprising but it was utterly depressing to see that not a single candidate was willing to admit that Climate Change is being caused by humans.

Ha. That's a good point. Bit of a logical fallacy right there.