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Prigozhin overplayed nothing.

Yesterday was as effective to hearts and minds, as a frontal assault on the Kremlin. Now he's away off to consolidate his position until the next day, with a massive blow struck.

Putin is a dead man walking, politically if not bodily. Yet.

Supposedly any who want to sign up with MoD can do so, others are free to go.

Immunity for all who participated in the "mutiny"

So possibly a dissolution of wagner group but not handing over all those fighters to the MoD. Where they go next is the big question

bizarre

The free to go bit surprises me. And there are, presumably, numerous rapists, murderers, paedos and other violent and traumatized men among them... they're just free to wander back into society and do what they want? Sounds like a recipe for awful things to happen

Remember, this is Russia, other peoples live dont matter

But it wasn't Navalny they were cheering, it was Prigozhin, a total psycho. And we're talking what, a few hundred people who came out to cheer? I'm not so sure they were representative of Russians as a whole. It's not like people were jumping to join his troops, which is what you'd expect if he really commanded support.

Anyone else been depressed all day with the outcome of this?

If it had continued it could have forced much of the Russian army back to Moscow and logistics into Ukraine would have been completely severed.

I guess I'll just have to settle for the multiple aircraft and pilot losses which is genuinely a boost for Ukraine.

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Think Luka is about to have an accident??

Absolutely but now blood has been spilt in the kremlim ocean ,it's now safe to say that shark's are going to be on the prowl picking off the weakest prey, think about putin has his own personal army protecting him yet a handful of Wagner forces and prigozhin was pretty much able to walk up to the gates of Moscow without opposition.

That's makes things even more dangerous for Moscow,at this stage a big push by the Ukrainians could well end up with 3 days to Moscow

It puts Wagner less than 100km from Kiev incidentally. Don't think that will go un-noticed.

Yeah. I doubt very much that Putin will allow Prigozhyn to command anything more than a hot dog stand after this weekends clusterf**k.

He'd be absolutely mad to let him have thousands of trained infantry at his disposal again. Unless theres some really enormous information thats eluded everyone.

Russia has made no serious attempt to attack Ukraine from the north in well over a year. If their military planners thought it was a viable route, they'd be all over it, given how long their forces have been held in the south and east, as well as offering the shortest route to Kyiv. Therefore, I have to think that Russia has looked at the satellite imagery, seen what defensive fortifications have had ample time to build and improve, and concluded that a land invasion via this route would be impossible to try again with what they have. And if that is what the Russian command did decide, then it's safe to assume that the Russian Mad Mike Hoare and his band of merry men would have even worse luck. Fish in a barrel.

Lukashenko has been playing a delicate game since the start of the invasion where he's willing to give support to Putin just so long as he doesn't have to commit his own troops (and thereby weaken his own position within Belarus). I can't see him allowing some lunatic to raise an army, drawing from his own people as he'd be concerned that it would inevitably lead to him being toppled. If that is the actual plan then he won't be long throwing sand in the gears.

Who knows though. There's scant detail right now. All the main players are keeping very quiet. We'll probably learn more in the next few days and weeks. Prigozhin isn't exactly the sort to stay quiet for too long.