Russia - threadbanned users in OP

I didn't reply to them because there was no benefit in doing so. It was obvious that it was their own views built upon off the back of the news, they just could have worded it better.

I've watched a number of news interviews now with people who share the same views as this poster, but they state it is a theory and a possibility, which is a given?

You don't need someone to state their views as theory, it is obvious in a situation like this.

You are saying nobody is buying what they are saying, which is claiming fact from your own opinion as well.

Russia had enough to defeat Wagner, even just locally in the South what it didn't have was enough or maybe any that were willing to shoot them, that's the problem for the Kremlin.

Many a civil war has started with this type of innocuous incident. But Russia is a law unto itself of course and doesn't seem to follow any established patterns - even many experienced Russia watchers were quite baffled by many of the events yesterday, including the conclusion.

No positives for Ukraine? That's absolutely absurd. Russia showed fractures. Putin was embarrassed and made look weak on the world stage, again. They were literally tearing up motorways on the road to Moscow.

In what world is that a bad day for Ukraine.

Some of the nonsense from the Pro Russian posters on this thread is mind boggling.

There was literally an armed coup/mutiny in Russia yesterday and that's somehow a good thing for Putin and Russia and a bad thing for Ukraine ?

I mean come on- If you're going to talk up Russia at least make it believable.

Compare to Assad: when some members of the inner circle and army turned against him and he looked on the verge of losing power, his solution was to fight the insurrection with even more brutality and persecute any dissent more brutally. It worked and saved his regime.

Putin, as his biggest assistant, will have watched closely. Saying he might adopt the same approach is not me saying he isn't a brutal thug already. Simply that things can still get worse.

You're welcome to highlight any post of mine saying yesterday was a positive day for Putin. You won't find one. Just like you won't find one saying the war in Ukraine is like a civil war or that I think Putin has prosecuted the war gently.... If you're going to call me a Putinbot at least back it up with evidence rather than just deliberately distorting posts any literate person can see don't mean what you say they do.

Maybe you weren't the Kazakhstan person yesterday but you were proclaiming civil war and mocking me when I said Putin wasn't overthrown yet and let's give it a day or two before drawing triumphant conclusions. We see who's right now and it clearly explains your bizarre aggression today that once again you got it wrong ....

Question about the Wagner fighters: what happens to those who don't want to sign contracts to join the regular army? And all the hardened criminals? Back to prison or just take their guns and go back into "civil" society?

Prigozhin overplayed nothing.

Yesterday was as effective to hearts and minds, as a frontal assault on the Kremlin. Now he's away off to consolidate his position until the next day, with a massive blow struck.

Putin is a dead man walking, politically if not bodily. Yet.

Supposedly any who want to sign up with MoD can do so, others are free to go.

Immunity for all who participated in the "mutiny"

So possibly a dissolution of wagner group but not handing over all those fighters to the MoD. Where they go next is the big question

bizarre

The free to go bit surprises me. And there are, presumably, numerous rapists, murderers, paedos and other violent and traumatized men among them... they're just free to wander back into society and do what they want? Sounds like a recipe for awful things to happen

Remember, this is Russia, other peoples live dont matter