Applegreen own brand chargers

I'd use public charging as little as possible, lucky with a home charger and the options at work, but needs must on a road trip - 2-3 hour drive, don't necessarily want to take a 40 min detour to charge, if you can avoid it.

The funny thing is that I've taken the car on the ferry to UK twice and spent less using public charging in the UK (Holyhead to Manchester round trip, twice, plus driving around over there) than it cost me for the road trip yesterday.

The Circle K in Tinyrland is live isn't it?

It's literally 1 minute off the N9. It's actually 2 junctions before you turn off for Paulstown if you are heading away from Dublin.

Thanks. I know where it is now that TitianGerm mentioned it.

It's not listed in Ecars, Applegreen or EasyGo. Plugshare has it but doesn't say what app is needed. Doesn't sound too reliable anyways.

Paulstown is back online according to the AG app.

Normally the slow down is decided by the car, the car advertises the maximum power for that charge percentage, based on battery temperature and capabilities of battery and car etc. Then it's up to the charger to supply up to that power and typically for 50kW chargers that means most cars can take all 50kW much of the way to 80% and beyond. 150kW chargers many cars struggle to allow that much.

Some of the better can can pre warm the batteries and have heating and cooling to try keep the battery in the sweet spot for maximum speed meaning many teslas and EV6 can hit 150kW+ easily for large parts of the charge.

Some ESB chargers are 50 or 150kW but the supply maximum to the charger itself is less so they can never achieve their "headline" speed.

Interesting that the last 2 bays look larger than standard, presumable for vans etc... or maybe I'm seeing it wrong

Either you're crazy or have way better eyesight than me 😂

I don't see bigger spaces, but it looks like the spaces at each end have dedicated chargers, whereas the middle 5 are shared units

So I wonder will there be higher powered chargers for those spaces, or will be they limited to 60kW or so 🤔

I just noticed the text mentions a canopy, I'll miss being rained on while waiting for the charger to start (not)

Actually it's probably a moot point since I live within 20km of that service station so it's unlikely I'll ever use it

Of course now that I've said it, I bet I'll mess up my charging calculations and end up needing a charge there 😂

Be nice if they (and other providers) offered a discounted unit rate for a modest monthly fee, it would help increase EV adoption for those who don't have a driveway...

Ah I didn't spot the business plan

Looks like the price is ex VAT, which presumably Taxi drivers don't pay on charging anyway

Saw this on Facebook, if you are gb/ni you cannot see ROI chargers and presumably vice versa. If you email them they can configure your account to see both.

Both of those are in stark comparison to Tesla at 39-43c/kWh and no pre-auth. I wonder what's driving the price difference, presumably they're all buying on the same market. Did Tesla get lucky with their hedging strategy or are AG/CK just using eCars pricing as a baseline?

SuC pricing in Ireland is now 39c/kWh (off peak) and 43c (peak), which is crazy good value compared to eCars, Applegreen and CircleK (or if you were charging at home on day-rate, for some reason). We only need more of them on the Island 🙂

Not to derail this thread too much, as it is specifically for Applegreen - I like the layout of the AG chargers. The cable is long enough to reach pretty much any combination of charge port location on your vehicle - but that thing is heavy!

Being new to this whole public charger thing, I tried an Applegreen charger locally over the weekend to see what it was like and I have to agree. The cable is very heavy but plenty long to reach just about any location of charge port. The whole experience was quick and easy and you can pay with a debit card (it puts an automatic €30 hold on your account though). Not sure why you would want to use their app as it seems to do the same thing as just rocking up and using your debit card anyway but of course, it will tell you if there are available chargers at the location before you get there.

Prices for charging are pretty high at the moment though and to me, using a fast charger on the road is an emergency thing. At 75c/KWh you really just need to get enough to make it home/end destination.

Using their app avoids the €30 block on your card, which I believe takes a few days to be released, so if you use these chargers daily or even multiple times a day, thats a lot of €30 blocks being held on your card...

In fairness, it's not necessarily paying €40k upfront as an entry fee, but I can understand where you're coming from with that. I thought that Tesla had said that previously $1,500 from the price of each car would be ringfenced for support and expansion of the Supercharger network. I can't find the source for that at the moment, so it's entirely possible that I imagined that figure but am fairly sure of it -- possibly doubting myself now 🙂.

If true, this would equate to a non-Tesla owner paying the monthly subscription fee to access the SuC network for about 10 years.

If a non-Tesla user was going to use a Supercharger more than twice in a month (like on a European road trip, or for more than 70-odd kWh), then subscribing for the month gets them access to the lower price and financially makes more sense. It is also easy to cancel the sub before the end of the month, unlike some other subs that require 12-months. So, I think including the non-Tesla owner price was fair enough.

That being said, it doesn't matter for trips in Ireland as the Supercharger network is not open for non-Teslas. Yet.

Applegreen, Circle K, even EasyGo and eCars don't have a subscription model (or at least one that significantly reduces the per kWh price for membership).

You're paying minimum 40k upfront for a tesla and 30k-35k upfront for the lowest price of most other car brands. So really the entry fee is only 5-10k

I believe the payment is taken from the card details stored on the app after the charge is finished (by the app) so no pre-auth or topping up needed, a good system by all accounts

Fair point, the thing about Ionity is they were always ridiculously expensive so that probably allowed them to keep the same base pricing structure all this time, I'm also led to believe that their charging plans for their own car owners hasn't changed much or at all, so it's much the same structure as Tesla in that regard

You look across our electricity network there is no electricity provider, house or car, who have dropped their prices despite wholesale prices dropping like a stone for the last number of months except Tesla. Now you can argue it's all about hedging etc but I have seen zero proof of such. In fact considering most suppliers had 3 rate increases last year we are long over-due a drop if this hedging excuse is to be believed