Applegreen own brand chargers

We've no shortage of idiots is for sure

I suppose for the AG chargers, people might know about the Ecars chargers and not be aware of the Applegreen units, despite being literally across the road

They also might not be aware of the lack of Chademo charging there, or indeed know what a Chademo plug is at all

Lots of people haven't a clue about chargers at all.

I have posted previosly about going to a SPOF & an id3 charging on ac instead of ccs. They hadn't a clue. Didn't know how to remove the smaller plastic cap.

Was chatting at another charger & they didn't know that mayfield has loads of chargers. Had been queing at portlaoise plaza. Didn't know ionity existed & also thought they could use Tesla chargers is they downloaded the app.

Would you not have popped back on the motorway, down to the next junction, crossed over and gone to AG north for chademo? That's what I would have done

When Tesla opens to other cars (and it is a "when" not an "if") I assume they won't be chademo capable and probably will also be more expensive than ecars, taking our nearest neighbours for example is 62p or 73p/kWh (70-83c) for non-teslas

In short, these people who will queue for an hour to save €2-€3 will keep doing just that

It's 10km N-S and 7 km S-N. For a Leaf that's a lot of motorway to drive for the same **** SPOF which may or may not be free. You're right SuC is CCS only and when opened the same persons that queue 90 mins at ecars with 2 AG chargers beside them will still queue at ecars with 2AG and 8 SuC beside them.

Regarding the know about the public charging, because my experience with this, I'm using public charging for the last 4 years and 2 months and I'm a technical person to begin with, my phone is constantly ringing with question about a charger or a provider. Getting calls like "I'm at such and such hotel and they have a black charger without cable. I plugged in and nothing happens can you help" are absolutely normal. I have friends who drive EVs for more that 4 years and never installed plugshare or AB on their phones. Sometimes they don't call unless they are in a pickle. "I'm at Doolin port. Google sent me to a charger but is behind a fence and it is locked. We had dinner at the hotel but we didn't charge there. Now I'm at 5% what should I do?". I accept that not everyone is cut for it and if you only think about public charging twice a year ....

It will help to have interoperability among major players. I know some would prefer credit card readers but personally I will not use my cc on a dodgy charger in the middle of nowhere. Aggregator apps like elii or plugsurfing would be the go to for the seldom users. Unfortunately manufactures do not provide these details even when it's thier own manufacturer app. How many vW driver don't know about wecharge/elli and so on.

There are already plenty of standards (like OCPI and OCPP) and systems (like Gireve and Hubject) that allow for interoperability between eMSPs and CPOs. Any lack of interoperability in Ireland is because the CPOs don’t want it. It might take a government or EU regulation to force them.

Customers called for Contactless EMV in the UK but CPOs didn’t want it so the government forced the issue there. It’s similar in the US but they linked compliance to grants.

+1 for the AG App as I need a receipt so I can claim the expense.

Tried today to charge at applegreen birdhill on the way back from Dublin. The chademo on the Tritum unit (Birdhill 1) wouldn't start charging using app or credit card, kept telling me to plug the car in, while it was plugged in.

Managed to use the app to call the customer care who were able to do nothing at all for me and subsequently used the app to log a complaint so found the app rather useful for that purpose anyway and cost me nothing lol

Don't get too excited, it'll probably be all 3kW AC chargers 😏

Jokes aside, that's great news, finally a decent hub in Ireland

It looks like Circle K might appeal to An Bord Pleanala, so it's not over yet

Also they have to build the thing, which could take years

Yeah their argument seems pretty weak, Circle K are saying it'll somehow damage the vibrancy and character of Dunsaughlin

I've been to Dunsaughlin, and while it's not exactly the hub of culture, I think they could afford to lose their petrol station and retain as much character as they currently have

And I kinda doubt it'll take a huge amount of business away from the town, it's not like people would be going there for a charging hub 😏

So yeah, hopefully the appeal gets thrown out

We're all a bit jaded aren't we 😉

I'm pretty sure they aren't going to have all the spaces installed at opening, but I'm hoping I'll be wrong.

Given the layout we say at Ballymount, it's quite possible they'll have a decent number of chargers going from day one

I assume the thinking is that if you have lower powered units people might stop in for food or coffee, where profit margins can be huge, while charging. On higher powered units drivers tend to wait in the car and move on as soon as possible

I disagree, I'd say whether or not drivers are going to use the facilities is independent of charging speed

Unless you're charging for 5 mins or less than I'm pretty confident there's time to go to the bathroom or grab a coffee and food

So if someone is waiting in the car it's more likely because they don't need or want to avail of the facilities. Faster or slower charging isn't likely to change that

I agree 100% the objective is to sell more stuff from the shop, hence the lure of a huge charging hub to pull in customers. But there's also a certain turnover that's ideal for those types of fast food restaurants

Consider for example if every car sat for an hour charging and every single car also buys a coffee and food, but only once and the same amount each time

In an hour you'd serve 36 customers, but if every car charged for 20 mins you'd serve 108 customers

So there's also an incentive there to make the charging reasonably fast