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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 54,514 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    It's in a twitter thread about it. They ran it through a AI detector and it came back 84% likely to be AI generated. Some big telltales there anyway with the differing focus on the different pieces of equipment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    The layout of the vehicles in that picture actually match the older drone footage, so I don't believe it was AI generated.

    FyLsnOCWIAMnaQe.jpeg




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    I think the thesis that the dam failed due to high water pressure alone is getting progressively weaker:





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Is there confusion here about a draftee who is trying to dodge and has to be persuaded? That does not make him a conscript.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    Russia lost 10 tanks in the last 24 hours...that's the average over the past few days. The actual number of tanks is likely to be much higher than the verified number and Ukr. are saying about 3,900 at this point.



    Post edited by zv2 on

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No, it hasn't.

    If a random lad on twitter feeding an image into an online AI detector meets your bar for 'confirmation' then you have set the bar very low. Online AI detectors are unreliable to the point of useless.

    The image comes from a video. The video pans across the scene and frames from the video have been stitched together (panorama) to present the scene in one go. So it's definitely edited, but not how you think.

    https://i.imgur.com/qzov0JA.mp4
    


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The losses actually got even worse later on.

    8 Bradley's all destroyed/disabled within a few metres of each other. What were they thinking?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    They don't have combined arms operations ,they are applying what they learned with Nato forces and trying to operate like Nato forces without artillery and no aircover from aircraft or helicopter gunships,they are always going to face large vehicle losses facing Russian artillery on open ground, while also facing large minefields ,



  • Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I believe this video shows the column I pictured above being attacked by Russian KA-52 gunship. At the front of the column are a bunch of destroyed vehicles - the number and arrangement looks very similar. But hard to be certain.

    You can see how it's a turkey shoot for the Russians. It takes 20s for the missile to reach their target so he's firing from around 10km away. If these are VIKHR missiles I believe he will carry 12 of them.

    We don't see it in the video but the normal tactic for the gunship will be to hide behind trees etc, pop up just enough to see the target, the pop back down. He stays low enough that Ukrainian sams can't see him. Ukraine are going to need to do something about these gunships if they want to proceed with the offensive.

    https://i.imgur.com/cz3zKrI.mp4
    


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,838 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    For now, everything has to be taken with a grain of salt but armor losses are to be expected when Ukraine are on the offensive.

    Also, I think it's worth bearing in mind that while the UAF's recent volunteers and reservics call ups may have received NATO level training, an awful lot of them are still going to be very green. There will be tactical mistakes made in the field and, sadly, lives and materiel lost as a result of those mistakes. It takes combat time for a battalion of soldiers to become battle hardened veterans. And those that become such are the survivors of the mistakes that build experience.

    A different war and a different type of soldier but a group revered as some of the finest soldiers of all time (and which I happen to know the stats for): when Easy Company left England on the eve of D-Day they were 139 men strong. By the end of their time in Carantan, just 69 enlisted men and 5 officers were left (roughly a month later).

    The counter-offensive is going to be similar: Ukraine are going to have to pay a heavy price to liberate their lands but it's quite clear it's a price they're willing to pay (and tbh, one they have little choice about unless they're happy to abandon their fellow countrymen and women to their fate at the hands of a brutal genocidal invader).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,087 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Ironically,after being written off , that ka52 engagement is a model of how attack helicopters are supposed to work ,

    Hiding behind terrain to pick off fast moving armour from a distance , while staying behind enemy lines away from manpads and mobile sams ..

    Wether the ukrainians can alter tactics to deal with this , obviously some form of top cover would help , but thats probably out ,

    Probably almost out of quadcopter drone range so they cant really swamp an area with drones to spot and attack ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭IdHidden


    Ukraine lacks a critical resource- manpower “ How do people post such rubbish. It is Russia that has the man power problems.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Sending armoured formations into a modern battleground without any proper air cover is madness, it's another example of the western allies only allowing Ukraine to fight back with a hand tied behind it's back.

    Attack helicopters & combat aircraft in sufficient numbers are badly needed by Ukraine to liberate it's national territory.

    They should have been supplied by end of last year, even a total layman like myself will realise that sufficient air cover is vital.

    Anyone suggesting but Putin, nukes / da bomb, peace talks, Ukraine are nazis, Ukrainians are Russians can go feck themselves.

    Just give Ukraine the required military equipment to win this war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Beverly Hills, California



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,653 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    That lead Bradley was knocked out whilst stationary, whatever was going on. The vehicle should not be driven at more than about 5km/h with the launcher elevated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Yeah nice. It's important to keep remembering we really just don't know the full picture. Because the Ukrainians aren't by and large posting their successes and Russian bloggers aren't going to post videos of bundles of their men fleeing like rats across open fields.

    It's tough to sit here and see destroyed bradleys/Leopards and some poor coordination on tank movements. Even I've been a bit despondant at times. But we aren't seeing the good they're doing. For all we know these things could be murdering scores of infantry and dozens of tanks or capturing important positions before they take a hit. The true result of the offensive isn't going to be known for weeks or possibly months. So relax for now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,473 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Simple but very effective.


    Just wait for UAF to launch, have the K-52 there in minutes and just pick them off one by one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    It has gotten so bad that a few weeks ago, Putin signed a new law into force that means now, all eligible Russians will receive notification to report to the nearest mobilization centre for registration, only now it will all be done by email, so no more "I did not receive the official summons" excuse. Failure to attend the centre within 10 days will mean that a 2nd email will be sent, and this will be considered final and binding, No excuses, and failure to attend after receiving this email will mean that basically you will become a non-citizen. You cannot present to any state institution's, hospital's, bank's etc. You can be arrested at any border. You are basically black listed. And this applies to Russian's who have left the jurisdiction as well. Now, on top of everything else, they are thinking about making a 6 day working week mandatory,,,with out any extra pay. Stalin MK 2 is now back in the Kremlin, and its becoming more and more obvious every passing day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭WheelieKing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭WheelieKing


    This is true but the Russian's unfortunately have what 4 times the population? If they are losing men at a reported 2:1 ratio it doesn't take a genius to figure out who will have the more manpower the longer this drags on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


    I think that within a week, or 10 days, the Ukrainians will know whether to push on or hold the lines. Lots of armor, on both sides, burning. Impossible to tell who's winning.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,944 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Firebombing cities was acceptable in WW2. Sentiments evolve



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,852 ✭✭✭zv2


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    Post edited by zv2 on

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The difference between what Ukraine is mobilizing and training and what Putin is mobilizing and training is huge. From day one Putin's un- willing conscripts are treated abominably, and that's saying something!! Even Prigozhin speaks about the Russian military as being unfit for purpose. Conscripts get 2 mth's basic training, ( if that) then off to war with them. Poorly equipped with weapons, supplies or even with medicine, many of these things their own Families have to buy for them with their own money. So no, its no quite the same as saying thet are all the same as being one on one. Then they are pitted against men who are literally fighting for the lives of their very families and home land. While Russians are fighting for a madman's dream, and unwillingly at that. Maybe 2/3 + Russian troops to one Ukrainian in terms of quality and motivation? Prigozhin also said that many more Russians were needed, but this should have been done 5 or 6 mth's ago, and now it may well be too late.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,843 ✭✭✭weisses


    So why not verify before posting some random fire



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