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Russia - threadbanned users in OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Ironically,after being written off , that ka52 engagement is a model of how attack helicopters are supposed to work ,

    Hiding behind terrain to pick off fast moving armour from a distance , while staying behind enemy lines away from manpads and mobile sams ..

    Wether the ukrainians can alter tactics to deal with this , obviously some form of top cover would help , but thats probably out ,

    Probably almost out of quadcopter drone range so they cant really swamp an area with drones to spot and attack ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭IdHidden


    Ukraine lacks a critical resource- manpower “ How do people post such rubbish. It is Russia that has the man power problems.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Sending armoured formations into a modern battleground without any proper air cover is madness, it's another example of the western allies only allowing Ukraine to fight back with a hand tied behind it's back.

    Attack helicopters & combat aircraft in sufficient numbers are badly needed by Ukraine to liberate it's national territory.

    They should have been supplied by end of last year, even a total layman like myself will realise that sufficient air cover is vital.

    Anyone suggesting but Putin, nukes / da bomb, peace talks, Ukraine are nazis, Ukrainians are Russians can go feck themselves.

    Just give Ukraine the required military equipment to win this war.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭SortingYouOut


    Beverly Hills, California



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    That lead Bradley was knocked out whilst stationary, whatever was going on. The vehicle should not be driven at more than about 5km/h with the launcher elevated.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    Yeah nice. It's important to keep remembering we really just don't know the full picture. Because the Ukrainians aren't by and large posting their successes and Russian bloggers aren't going to post videos of bundles of their men fleeing like rats across open fields.

    It's tough to sit here and see destroyed bradleys/Leopards and some poor coordination on tank movements. Even I've been a bit despondant at times. But we aren't seeing the good they're doing. For all we know these things could be murdering scores of infantry and dozens of tanks or capturing important positions before they take a hit. The true result of the offensive isn't going to be known for weeks or possibly months. So relax for now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,135 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Simple but very effective.


    Just wait for UAF to launch, have the K-52 there in minutes and just pick them off one by one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    It has gotten so bad that a few weeks ago, Putin signed a new law into force that means now, all eligible Russians will receive notification to report to the nearest mobilization centre for registration, only now it will all be done by email, so no more "I did not receive the official summons" excuse. Failure to attend the centre within 10 days will mean that a 2nd email will be sent, and this will be considered final and binding, No excuses, and failure to attend after receiving this email will mean that basically you will become a non-citizen. You cannot present to any state institution's, hospital's, bank's etc. You can be arrested at any border. You are basically black listed. And this applies to Russian's who have left the jurisdiction as well. Now, on top of everything else, they are thinking about making a 6 day working week mandatory,,,with out any extra pay. Stalin MK 2 is now back in the Kremlin, and its becoming more and more obvious every passing day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭WheelieKing




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭WheelieKing


    This is true but the Russian's unfortunately have what 4 times the population? If they are losing men at a reported 2:1 ratio it doesn't take a genius to figure out who will have the more manpower the longer this drags on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    I think that within a week, or 10 days, the Ukrainians will know whether to push on or hold the lines. Lots of armor, on both sides, burning. Impossible to tell who's winning.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,068 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Firebombing cities was acceptable in WW2. Sentiments evolve



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    ...

    Post edited by zv2 on

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The difference between what Ukraine is mobilizing and training and what Putin is mobilizing and training is huge. From day one Putin's un- willing conscripts are treated abominably, and that's saying something!! Even Prigozhin speaks about the Russian military as being unfit for purpose. Conscripts get 2 mth's basic training, ( if that) then off to war with them. Poorly equipped with weapons, supplies or even with medicine, many of these things their own Families have to buy for them with their own money. So no, its no quite the same as saying thet are all the same as being one on one. Then they are pitted against men who are literally fighting for the lives of their very families and home land. While Russians are fighting for a madman's dream, and unwillingly at that. Maybe 2/3 + Russian troops to one Ukrainian in terms of quality and motivation? Prigozhin also said that many more Russians were needed, but this should have been done 5 or 6 mth's ago, and now it may well be too late.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    So why not verify before posting some random fire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    Could be sabotage. I can't verify it but I posted it because people can be on the lookout for developments if they like.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭thomil


    Not related, German news outlets reporting that this was a fire on a construction site in Hamburg’s “Docklands”, the HafenCity. Fire has since been put out and all reports indicate a simple accident.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    And we don't necessarily believe all that we see in videos, from either side, do we?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I wonder if their isr gear can pick up a ducking and diving ka52 from high above , and send info down to something like a stormer or avenger ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,093 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Our source in the OP said that Zaluzhny refused to launch a counteroffensive without F-16s and long-range missiles, but the Office of the President decided not to wait for the decision of the Commander-in-Chief and held a bid, which identified three main commanders:

    Alexander Syrsky - commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, commander of the operational-strategic grouping of troops "Khortitsa".


    Oleksandr Komarenko - Head of the Operational Directorate of the Headquarters of the Command of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


    Alexander Tarnavsky - commander of the operational-strategic grouping of troops "Tavria".


    The counteroffensive is commanded by Syrsky, who lost Bakhmut a month ago and takes Kleshcheevka by storm for 4 weeks.

    I wonder is there something to this. Zaluzhny has definitely taken a step back in the last month.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,093 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Bakhmut .. Southern flank ,, 09.06


    In a matter of hours, the 57th Motorized Rifle Brigade lost a section 1200 m wide and up to 180 m deep.


    To Andreevka no more than 3.5 km.


    anxious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,246 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog



    I'm encouraged to see Ukraine soften on negotiation as the only route out of this avoiding a total annexation of the country. They've put up a brave fight but reality is dawning quickly now and if they don't want to end up in a catastrophic situation they need to go for the only way out available. They want to preserve as much territorial integrity as possible - going in to negotiations with a capable standing army is far preferable to the alternative with Russia on the offensive. I'd confidently predict no negotiation at that point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭strathspey


    I'm not happy about this at all. I want to hear about russians dying in their excrement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    It would be a very bitter pill for the Ukrainians to negotiate anything with Putin plus he won't keep to any agreement or even whoever follows him would most likely break any deal as well .I was always fearful that the sheer numbers Putin could call on would make defeating them back and out of Ukraine very difficult . I hope it happens but I am slightly less optimistic for Ukraine than I was a while back .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭200mg


    There is a 3rd option on the destroyed APC tank. Blue on blue. Commander got ahead of pre ordered artillery clearing of mines. They could have been doing that then let sappers out to clear any that did not get taken out. That's even if it's true. Ofc it's not the most reliable way to clear but NATO could have specific rounds that we don't know about to help with that.



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