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Irish Cricket 2023

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,843 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Your wish is granted. Pope gets his double century and gone next ball. About 2 hours to survive tonight, can we do it, without losing a wicket?????



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    Probably be 3 down, Moor is a walking wicket, hope Tector gets a start



  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    My God Balbirnie is hard to defend. Surely a captain has to put more value on his wicket. 2 runs, as if it wasn't difficult enough to compete the captain contributes 2 bloody runs. What a leader, yet the bowlers will get all the criticism



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Lionel Fusco


    Can't defend that your wider points about CI throwing the lads to the wolves are totally correct but we still have to expect the very basics from our captain and he can't even deliver that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Lionel Fusco


    McCollum having to retire hurt is a real blow



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    McCollum gone off hurt, not sure exactly sure what happened but he looked badly hurt, some sort of leg injury



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,843 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Played just 10 balls in this match, 5 in each innings!!!



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Really poor response by the top order, Stirling and Balbirnie are very experienced a bit more fight needed. It's not even England's first choice attack. If they make it to the third day it won't last long.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Ireland shouldn't be playing test match cricket at all , it's a complete waste of time for everyone involved.

    All their efforts should be put into the shorter forms of the game and try and get the public to buy into that and build a support and player base for the sport through the shorter forms of the game.

    Fact is it's never going to take off as spectator sport or a sport to play in Ireland so why are Cricket Ireland wasting their time with it.They should never have become a test match playing nation in the first place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Test status brings in more ICC funding. That was the main driver for getting it.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,105 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    They should be playing tests. But there is little value in Ireland starting off playing a test away against a country ranked third in the world. brain dead thinking…

    There is literally nothing to gain….

    Fixtures and tests against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh is how we should have looked to find our feet in test format….

    against test sides with less of a chasm of abilities…yes there is less of a ‘glamour’ and less of an attractiveness about those fixtures but you need to cut your cloth appropriately, start small, plan big…

    we are looking at an innings defeat and an innings defeat probably within 3 days…

    the problem with England is it’s convenient… just a short hop on a plane, minimal logistical effort and expense to make it happen…

    pity sport ireland can’t adequately partly fund cricket’s success and expansion… it’s their direct remit…sport ireland is the statutory authority that oversees, and partly funds, the development of sport within Ireland. So they claim…

    But… this year Sport Ireland are investing just €16m for 58 National Governing Bodies of Sport…. Cricket by its nature is an expensive sport to run…. But it’s been riding a crest of a wave…. But governments and agencies such as sport Ireland while could and should invest in the bounce… as I’ve mentioned are instead doing SFA….



  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    You could maybe, very maybe see the benefit of this game if Ireland had a full test program coming up but they don't.

    Tector and Tucker will learn lots this morning but by the time they next play a test it'll mean nothing. There's no point playing one test every 7/8 months, players can't get into a rhythm. When Zimbabwe were starting out, they played enough tests each year to continue to develop.

    CI and the ICC need to decide what the long-term plan is for Ireland and test cricket. If the plan is as it is, a test every now and then, it's better if Ireland walk away from tests, focus on the other formats and try and develop into a competitive limited overs side. If the plan is for Ireland to play a more intense test schedule, then investment is needed. A good first class structure needs to be put in place and a full A program needs to be a priority. You can't keep having guys learn on the job in tests.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,105 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Essentially we as 132/5 with James McCollum retired hurt. Not looking good.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,895 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    Tector gets the half century then out next ball. Looking like an innings defeat is inevitable



  • Registered Users Posts: 14 Smartphone 1


    Just throw in the towel now and end this humiliation



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,105 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Tector going well and then plays the absolutely lousiest cut shot to give Brook a dolly of a catch at gully. 😖

    Campher a couple of balls later with a lazy stupid shot and Root picking up his wicket… going arial to Root knowing Stokes is at at backward square leg… had to have known there was a fielder there….dumb, naive stupid cricket.

    163/6 but probably only 3 wickets remaining with the injury.

    was so hoping we’d post a competitive 300+ in this second innings. But brain dead naivety really our downfall.

    McBrine and Adair going on the attack, good to see.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,105 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Ahh that’s a shame for Adair… he deserved a century…. Seriously unlucky to get such a thin edge considering it was a ramp shot… you rarely see that…… usually any bat it’s 4,6 or an edge down towards fine leg.

    might be worth McBrine putting the foot down



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    All you naysayers can **** OFF



  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    Wow, what a gutsy team. Fair play to them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,843 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Well fair dues to these lads batting down the order: Tector, Tucker, McBrine and Adair. They've shown up the efforts of Balbirnie & Stirling for sure, time for change you'd think. Great to see a bit of fight and make the English bat again. If McBrine can get his century now at all, it'd be great.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    What humiliation? Its a decent fightback from an inexperienced and overmatched side, but by no means a humiliation, the bowling attack is ridiculously weak, and they have only taken 7 wickets between this and the 2nd Sri Lanka test, and I think only 5 in the first Sri Lanka test, but they have battled and the effort can't be questioned even if the skill level can be, and it doesn't help to be carrying 3 or 4 players in every game. But you have to keep it in perspective and its nice to see what has happened today, England are probably the best test team at the moment, and could demolish Australia



  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    They avoided an innings defeat, just.... Don't get carried away



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭lbunnae


    Again , naysayers can **** off. Seen any stats about tests for countries when they get status?



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,843 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    We seem to have very uneven performances and carrying some passengers, who occasionally reprieve themselves. Don't like to be unkind but coaches need to be telling Paul Stirling for example to get fitter and lose a bit of weight or retire. Any international sport now requires athletes on the field, players who can move quickly and who are agile. Even 'hiding' Stirlo in the slips is not great as there's inertia there before he can throw himself forward or sideways. Anyways we obviously need a more threatening bowling attack most urgently or at least one that can bowl tight and keep scoring down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,105 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Was a shame the first innings total was so poor...

    Second innings showed they are capable of a significant score... and they did it by putting foot to floor and playing shots too .. pity one of the two lads or both didn't get to their century... would have been a nice feather in the caps of the lads and indeed the Irish team / Irish cricket to get a hundred or two in a Lords test... think in that innings our batsmen got the risk / reward balance better attuned...



  • Registered Users Posts: 727 ✭✭✭wicorthered


    And they had supportive boards and future tests planned. What have Ireland planned? When's the next test.? The chief executive described a Lord's test as not the pinnacle of the game, that shows the priority. Why play tests when the board have no interest in it? Ill tell you why, it's for the money. They couldn't care less if the bowlers go at 15 an over as long as the account balance increases. And where does the money go? The Wolves haven't had a proper game since Covid. There's no first class structure. The number of domestic 50 and 20 over games were slashed this season. So the money isn't going into the grassroots. Plenty of admin staff though... Maybe you're one.

    It's nothing to do with the players, they've done their best. The board have hung them out to dry. We'll be in the same situation in 2024 when the next test might happen. Again you'll have young lads making first class debuts in test matches. Again on a hiding to nothing.

    You either take test cricket serious or walk away. There's no hiding place on the Lord's pitch. You get what you put in, and CI put in as little as possible.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,431 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Is this on any free to air tv?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Decent fight back, Adair and McBrine took the fight to England. At least they made England bat again - the gap between the sides is immense and won't change anytime soon unfortunately.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 15,431 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Ok. Thanks



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