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When did being woke become a bad thing?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,491 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    So you want evidence that Tony desires extreme suppression?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,491 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Yes. A single quote will suffice. It'd be preferable to your smear attempt.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie


    Yeah , I notice you employ this tactic all the time, pull the “ evidence please “ card trick , then when no smoking gun is presented, you instantly reply “ so nothing then “

    you need a new gimmick



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,683 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,491 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    So you were just making it up. Thanks for confirming.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,477 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    When it started morphing into this shît….

    one of my favourite fashion labels has set up on their website (but it’s not available to do yet) a section where you can soon ‘ rent ‘ clothing….

    I had to check if it was April 1st… the reasons they claimed for doing it are ‘sustainability’… I have absolutely zero idea how it’s sustainable, to have a coat, that for about 8 months until it falls apart, will be travelling all over the place, getting packaged, repackaged, washed / re washed 😅 which it will have to have done after every wear and rental…. There is zero sustainable about that… in fact I can’t work out how the **** it’s profitable.. probably not, probably being used as a initial loss making marketing gimmick to reel in the dumb woke goons…. Kill the service after a year but you’ve reeled in the woke and some might stay if you throw up a few signs about sustainability and be throwing a few bob at x cause / y cause…woke punters might hang around ..😅

    One of the good things about this brand was that it never involved itself in any sort of political, social or whatever crisis, in Mauritania, The Gabon or Ghana… there was never marketing about ‘awareness’ or ‘causes’.. They just designed, marketed and sold seriously nice and stylish clothing…still do but are standard punters going to be hit in the pockets now when purchasing clothes to pay for all this woke palaver ?…this outrageous nonsense ? 🫣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭tesla_newbie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,988 ✭✭✭✭Rothko




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,683 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Let me assure you, I'm perfectly calm. 🙂

    But thanks for your concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    What an inconsequential thing to be so wound up about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,477 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Wow great job…..Not actually wound up, it’s a discussion 🤪



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,491 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    How is renting clothing somehow woke? Or does woke just mean annoying?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,697 ✭✭✭elefant


    You've gone on a rant about some unnamed clothing label renting clothes, and how this is when woke morphed a bad thing.

    It's gas how the people who have the most disdain for the performative activism of the 'woke' are so often the most dramatically emotional about the very same issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,477 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Have a read……. The reason behind it is ‘ sustainability ‘…. Which again, is BS… another buzzword from the wokerati playbook…..multiple more times packaged, repackaged again , transported etc… so it’s ‘less’ sustainable arguably, it’s less appropriate for the environment.

    Woke - aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues. It’s not just racial or gender or whatever.

    but the constant hypocrisy of woke…. Yes, reuse, resell clothing but it will be worse for the environment..



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,491 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm not seeing anything to get triggered about. Just the usual outrage nonsense.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    Renting clothes already happens???

    Does the poster think we all own tuxes or something?


    😂😂😂

    Poor Black Tie and other tux rental companies. How DO they make any money?!


    Also, there’s the service for woman to borrow clothes for an interview. Can’t remember what it’s called, but there’s one in Dublin.

    What next? Will “the woke” ask you to ”recycle” your batteries? Grrrrr damn Wokies 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    The latest company to start renting out clothes is ASOS: https://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/fashion-beauty/womens-clothing/asos-clothes-rental-b2217007.html

    (is that your favourite brand? I found them to be a bit above Penneys, but below Dunnes level for quality.)

    anyway, there is a huge problem with (hate to generalise!) women in particular that buy an outfit once and throw it out. That’s no good for the planet or the wallet.

    I like this idea, even if renting out clothes is a bit old fashioned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,477 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    yes, comparing a tux, that is a hard wearing clothing combo….that people mostly might wear once or twice in their lifetime, that can be dry cleaned, comparing that to renting everyday clothing worn regularly for ‘sustainability’ purposes …. Somewhat disingenuous but you know this 😉



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭hkjohn



    You don't need to shout out how “woke”

    you are to be anti-racist and inclusive.

    Problem is that many of the so-called "woke brigade" are like the Pharisees in the Bible or the Puritans during the 18th Century:

    They seize every opportunity and are quick to point out the flaws - and call for the ostracism -' of others who are in reality no more (and in many cases less) flawed than they are themselves.

    JK Rowling is an excellent example of a "woke" pile on.

    Remark on the average self-proclaimed "woke" person's intolerance and you, too, will soon find yourself being "man/woman/theyhandled" to the front of the queue for cancellation.

    Post edited by hkjohn on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭joe40


    I have never heard anyone ever claim to be woke. I'm happy to be proven wrong but I have yet to see it. The term is only used by people claiming to be anti-woke.

    The JK Rowling thing was about Transgender issues. There are strong views on both sides but nothing to do with a generic woke thing, whatever that even means.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That post was hilarious again one of those if I didn't know it was serious I would say great job on the parody of an anti woke ranter.

    Problem is that many of the so-called "woke brigade" are like the Pharisees in the Bible or the Puritans during the 18th Century:

    Right form the start with the so-called "woke brigade" remark. Who are they so called by and who is being called this. Or is it all an imagined slight by an imaginary group the poster imagined. I would imagine so. Shush calm down john Lennon thats enough imagine for today.

    They seize every opportunity and are quick to point out the flaws - and call for the ostracism -' of others who are in reality no more (and in many cases less) flawed than they are themselves.

    Next the Poster creates a group which he can ostracise or other all while lamenting such act. Comedy gold. bravo. no wait its serious. 🤣😮😦😵



  • Posts: 3,065 [Deleted User]


    I’m guessing most of you are too young to realise it, but there are genuine echoes of the type of superiority seem decades ago when it comes from might be called ‘woke’ advocates now.


    Theres very strict intolerance for people who diverge from their approach to life. It’s not unlike the condescension to unmarried mothers once or people who were not religious.

    There are also large dollops of hypocrisy and idiocy from commentators in the media. One publication recently published a piece of satire about fake tan as of it was someone’s genuinely held view. The same paper has a columnist who slammed lack of environmental consciousness but also wrote about travelling to New York to watch a film.


    This whole stuff is not unlike the religious superiority seen pre 1990 because it is predicated on the idea that those who have certain attitudes are virtuous and others are lesser beings.

    I find it amazing in a way, the type of social snobbery seen when I was a boy is still here, but the targets are different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    But of course there is a difference, isn’t there? The church would not tolerate those that were in any were different.

    Heres a not complete list:

    Homosexuals, Trans people, Bisexuals, Unmarried mothers, Mentally disabled people, a physically disabled people etc. etc.

    the difference between “The woke” and the church is that “the woke” stand up for these people and their rights, where the church were more than happy to cast them into hell or homes.

    None of these things can be changed about those people. Even unmarried mothers couldn’t have abortions, to become unmarried mothers in the first place!

    What “The Woke” fight against are OPINIONS. Not liking trans people or even realising they exist, is an OPINION, same for homosexuals, bisexuals unmarried mothers etc. etc. Opinions change all the time. Being gay or an unmarried mother does not.

    This is actually the worst take I have ever seen on boards, which is a high mark. Bravo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭thegame983


    Thinking a man can transform into a women just by thinking it is also an opinion. It isn't reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,781 ✭✭✭Flaneur OBrien


    It is reality. Backed up by science. This is not the thread to discuss the existence of trans individuals



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Wokesters in the past were called cranks and their opinions were sensibly dismissed.

    Problem is these days because the wokesters scream and shout so much companies and the media take the wokesters seriously and change policy base on their current cause du jour.



  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Stetson Spoiled Symmetry


    Being woke is a positive thing, studies in both the UK and US show this.

    Trump lost the last election because he buried himself too deep in the gender war. DeSanctimonious is already falling into the same trap.

    Do some lefties go OTT, sure, but mainly ranting and raving online.

    Who shoots up schools?

    Who gets a few more civil liberties?



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  • Site Banned Posts: 12,922 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Jaysis is this still going?

    Must mean the 'anti woke' crowd, or the people who enjoy discrimination and inequality are still trying to change the meaning of 'woke'

    The question is, who would benefit from normal ' woke' people being represented as something else?



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