When did being woke become a bad thing?

Was it "the woke" that cancelled Bud light btw?

America has always been a racially divided country that is completely obsessed with skin colour. To say otherwise is a gross misrepresentation of what non-white people have gone through over the last two and a half centuries.

They were so obsessed, white people and black people had different entrances to buildings, different water faucets to drink from, different sections to sit on on a bus etc. etc.

If being aware of that is a bad thing, well, I'm very guilty so.

What is it with you guys and offering

1: video as any kind of proof. Why can you not offer a synopsis? Many people like myself right now are not in a position to watch and listen to a video, no matter how long it is.

2: it's always from an incredibly biased source. In this case GBNews is a right wing entertainment channel, of course it's users parrot what it states.

There was no dishonest representation. America has ALWAYS had a race problem. And now, finally it's getting to grips with it. Of course white people get offended when they're referred to as colonisers. The fact is their ascendants were most likely, colonisers. White people are not native to North America.

Maybe this is why history class is so important after all.

He profits from the outrage industry, if he wasn't involved in the whole culture wars thing he would be an unknown Canadian academic on 80k a year. He has done very well out of it. I can see why his "customers" would not want him to be seen this way. They prefer to hide behind someone who they regard as "smart" who "destroys liberals" or whatever, the whole "look a really smart guy thinks so", so it must be true. He is of course better at debating than the random outraged wokeists that he "destroys".

If you watch Jordan Peterson regularly you will notice after a while he can burst into tears at any moment. He appears to me to be neurotic.

The problem is that the underlying principles of wokeness are accepted by most people so that when extreme versions of it appear they have no way of rejecting it.

I reject it for the philosophical reasons I stated earlier, but also historical injustices should be put in a proper broad context.

I would like to know why Irish people should care more about e.g. reparations for American blacks descended from African slaves as opposed to reparations for the descendants of enslaved Greeks, Serbians, Croatians, Montenegrins, Bosnians, Slovenes captured by the Ottoman Turks.

Plenty of the descendants of those slave-owners, Turkish merchants and other big-wigs, living the high life now in Istanbul which is a thriving city. They were colonialists too.

But of course we watch American TV, not Balkan TV. So it is a thousand films and TV series about racist Southerners that is burned into our brains.

Woke involve themselves in provoking and advocating injustice, unfairness and the vast majority of them or certainly a good number are bullies and enact entrenched bullying tactics to attempt to shout down, discredit, insult and provoke those with counter viewpoints…you don’t see them having anything approaching a reasonable, fair and educated debate with anyone… they only have empathy for their own lot, their own ideals and their own scheming mindsets….. don’t like it when they get shown up, they lose their shït. Woke is not good, it’s like a cancer but like cancer with better treatments and more awareness it’s been beaten… won’t go away 100% but it’s treatable in society now and sound thinking fair people are on top of them and make lifestyle choices to avoid getting… woke.… 🥸

The basic part of being woke as I understand it is being anti racist and anti all the other prejudices that are out there. And that to me is perfectly fine and really should be a baseline for people in 2023.

The issue I have and think it hurts the underlying good parts are when there is lists of words released and suggesting intent for words and phrases that most likely was never the intention of the people who came up with it in some cases hundreds of years ago. I’ve seen it with Disney plus where there are warnings about the content of movies from the 1990s and the first few times i saw it I was genuinely confused because the movies I question, I’d have never said they promoted those things.

Woke for me is closer to prioritising overly emotive conscientiousness over Situational awareness

now of course that probably makes no sense, but it's how I feel and that's the main thing in all of this