Everything you always wanted to know about electric vehicle (but were afraid to ask)

Not bad at all but some of the earlier, pre 2014 in particular, had a reputation for sufferring from very significant degradation. In any case even at 100% SOH they only had a realistic range of about 120 to 150kms max and less if you tried to go at 120kms when they almost had a cardiac arrest. Fine if you're paying €10 k for a runaround but compared very poorly to the newer Ioniq or Kona. The L30s very very poor in general also. Not unusual to see them at mid 70%s soh even after the software update which I think was a clever ruse by Nissan to mask the known degradation problem and stave off warranty claims

The Fluence was a Leaf with a bigger backside, commonly with leased batteries and no fast charging so no wonder it wasnt that popular either new or used

Yes the lack of fast charging didn't help. Some pioneers got a Leaf as their only or main family car and you simply couldn't do that with the Fluence. Also the hefty battery lease took most of the fuel savings gains away. Back in 2011 / 2012 it was pretty much torture to own any EV unless you had one as a second car. Then they were fine. Tesla changed all that with long distance EVs and others (slowly) followed. Fast forward a decade and now the older Leaf and Fluence are perfect second cars for many families, even with their battery degradation and short range. You mention only bad things about the Fluence but some good things are it is very big (3 adults or child seats fit in the back, extremely comfortable to be in and to drive it and of course, it's not horrendously ugly like all other EVs of that generation 😂

Indeed. I bought my first Tesla when it was over 5 years old. One thing I was a bit disappointed about is that it didn't have a way to disable traction control. The car was a performance model, and I'm a bit of a child sometimes. Well, that's my excuse anyway.

Until a week later, after an over the air software update, my old car all of a sudden did have an option to switch off traction control! 😮

I use autotrader, choose plug in hybrid in fuel section, then make, model, year etc, then find the car, click specification, it shows battery size, usable amount and range. It used to give charging times,

That's has changed Jan of this year. Assume there is no free parking anywhere.

PEUGEOT 208 GT

Hi guys have had access to petrol PEUGEOT 208 GT for a couple of weeks when abroad recently and a nice city car. Herself has taking a liking to it and we are looking at a new car in 2024. Saw they have a electric commercial version and a passenger version. Any one have either.

We don’t do a lot of mileage probably 20-30 km a day city driving and then 150km every second or third weekend. Live in apartment but have access to a charge point at work.

we are looking into see which option is best to get as we can go either commercial route through work or passenger option.

sorry it’s all totally new to us and I’m working back through this thread so apologies if this has been asked earlier.

TIA

If you have easy, regular access to charging at reasonable rates (or better, free) - go electric all the way :)

The e208 is a grand little yoke, and will easily cover the trips you mention ... you'll probably only want to charge every four or five days anyway ... after a while you get a feel for it, and the occasional fast-charge (at a price) won't break the bank or make much of a dent in the economic argument in favour of the electric version.

edit: Of course, you're asking on an EV section of the forum, so you're going to get EV-positive feedback .. but your scenario would (to me) seem close to ideal (only beaten by easy @home charging availability)

I had a giggle at the queue at the petrol station, I wonder was it there the 2nd time you had to stop,

What was the other vehicle you passed driving slower than you?

Good advice but the charger needs to have load balancing to ramp up and down like this. A basic charger may not be equipped with it but the more expensive ones like Zappi etc. come with it standard.