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Irish Rugby and Sevens

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Men got to quarter finals after a 12-17 loss to Samoa and wins Spain and USA both 26-0. Lost to South Africa in quarters. Play GB next in 5th place playoffs

    Women beat Spain 14-12, Brazil 26-12 and lost to Australia 43-7 before a 26-12 win over Fiji in quarters. play New Zealand in semis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    I don't understand this. Every other thing in the game is if you are out of play when touching the ball then the ball is dead.

    I assume the above rule is if the player themself isn't in touch.



  • Subscribers Posts: 41,836 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    No, there's loads of occasions when you can touch the ball while being out of the field of play



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,797 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Such as? I'm not doubting you, Im really curious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    You can score a try

    If you jump out of touch and tap the ball back on before you land



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭RichieRich_89


    If the ball is already touching the ground in the in-goal area you can score a try by touching the ball even if you are in contact with the ground over the touchline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    So we beat GB and lost to Samoa 24-12 in mens and the women lost to new zealand 41-0 and lost to USA 12-5

    We're now 9th in mens series. 23 points gap above GB in 10th and 4 behind Australia and then USA, Argentina, Fiji, France all within 10 points

    Women are 5th. level on points with France. 14 behind USA and Australia and 16 ahead of Fiji, GB.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,308 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    The women are almost guaranteed Olympic qualification now. The top 5 including France are a fair bit ahead of the rest with only 3 events left. It would take a disaster coupled with historic runs for either Fiji or GB for them to miss out

    And even if it is GB, Ireland will easily qualify at the European games…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Yeah unless women start to struggle and finish in the 6th/7th/8th places at a few tournaments and Fiji or Britain make finals then the spot is theres.

    Would be huge for womens team to get a spot. Even more for sport than getting the mens team there

    Really wish we could do more for 7s at a domestic level. plenty of longstanding tournaments. would be class if they turned the Kinsale, Connemara. few other places into a series for club teams.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,773 ✭✭✭connemara man


    I think The IRFU tried to force 7s competitions on the Women's AIL teams as a term of participation. Instead of trying to grow the current 7s comps and it's ended up doing more harm than good.

    Teams moved away from the big tournaments and the club tournaments never took off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    I cant remember exactly how it went. but as with so much of governance/management of womens game. handled badly from all angles.

    A series with existing tournaments and add a few more in other areas around country could be class. tie in decent music or anything else and draw good crowd. would be cool to see. Clifden, Kinsale, Dublin, Carrick, Athlone maybe 1/2 more venues



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Has anyone picked up any tickets to the sevens events at the Olympics in 2024? I see a multi-pack pre-sale opened recently, interested to see what sessions and prices are looking like.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Ireland men beat Uruguay 7-0 in their opening game of LA 7s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I didn't get to see it but seven points in a 7's game is very odd. Was there some crazy weather or something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    aIreland put down Canada 22-0 and South Africa 14-5 to top their group booking a quarter final against Australia.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Lots of delays due to torrential rain,pitch was a mess. we beat Canada 20-0 in next game and Sth Africa in final pool game.

    We play Aus in 1/4s this evening



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I seen that game, Conroy put on a great show with tries and slides. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    I didn't see the match but it looks like Ireland took a 31-7 hammering against Australia. Ireland to play Great Britain in the 5th place playoff later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭ersatz


    Yeah, outplayed, very little possession, lots of penalties and a yellow card. Conroy made his usual solo try from nothing but otherwise pretty poor show. That said Oz are a very good team.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    As ersatz said they got outplayed with the penalties being a major issue. I'm far from a sevens expert but it seems like they're missing Terry Kennedy big time, and looks to me like a less individually talented and athletic team than we've had up to now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Kennedy was a genuine star at 7s and we really miss him.

    Sometimes it feels like we lose too many players from our sevens squad because the money isn't there to keep them. There's a constant drain of 3-5 players a year retiring.

    Need to figure out how to monetise 7s so salaries can be increased or else we will be a middling sevens team that can produce good runs on occasion.

    Just lost 12-5 to GB leaving us as finishing 7-8 place.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Nice start to Vancouver tournament 35-5 win v Canada (mens)

    Beat Chile 50-7 in second group game, final group match v Australia later

    Post edited by SaoPaulo41 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Final group game is against USA is it not?

    Didn 't even realise the mens were playing this weekend.

    7-0 down at the moment.

    Post edited by S.M.B. on


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,836 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Girls got pretty much robbed v the french.

    No way was that a knock on by Parsons never any disconect



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭typhoony


    The men arecthrough to the semi-final where they will play Argentina



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Frustrating call by the ref at the very end, especially as he had just penalised Argentina for a similar offence moments before.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Tough group for men's in HK7S

    Ireland, NZ,Kenya , SA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I thought they were seeded as in you can only have two top 8 sides per group?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    I think the seeding works based on the result of the last tournament.


    So on that basis it's


    Ireland 4th

    New Zealand 5th

    Kenya 10th

    South Africa 13th



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    IRELAND MEN’S SEVENS Squad (HSBC Hong Kong Sevens, Hong Kong Stadium, March 31 – April 2, 2023):

    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers RFC)

    Sean Cribbin (Suttonians RFC)

    Fergus Jemphrey (IQ Rugby)

    Jack Kelly (Dublin University FC)

    Hugo Lennox (Skerries RFC)

    Matt McDonald (IQ Rugby)

    Liam McNamara (IQ Rugby)

    Harry McNulty (UCD RFC)(capt)

    Chay Mullins (Galway Corinthians RFC/Connacht/IQ Rugby)

    Dylan O’Grady (UCD RFC)

    Mark Roche (Lansdowne FC)

    Tom Roche (Lansdowne FC)

    Andrew Smith (Clontarf FC/Leinster)

    IRELAND WOMEN’S SEVENS Squad (HSBC Hong Kong Sevens, Hong Kong Stadium, March 31 – April 2, 2023):

    Kathy Baker (Blackrock College RFC)

    Claire Boles (Railway Union RFC)

    Megan Burns (Blackrock College RFC)

    Amee-Leigh Murphy Crowe (Railway Union RFC)

    Stacey Flood (Railway Union RFC)

    Katie Heffernan (Railway Union RFC)

    Eve Higgins (Railway Union RFC)

    Erin King (Old Belvedere RFC)

    Vicky Elmes Kinlan (Wicklow RFC)

    Emily Lane (Blackrock College RFC)

    Kate Farrell McCabe (Suttonians RFC)

    Lucy Mulhall Wicklow RFC) (capt)

    Béibhinn Parsons (Blackrock College RFC)

    IRELAND SEVENS Schedule – Hong Kong Sevens:

    Friday, 31st March

    • Ireland Women v Fiji, 6.04am Irish time
    • Ireland Men v South Africa, 8.04am Irish time
    • Ireland Women v Australia, 10.28am Irish time

    Saturday, 1st April

    • Ireland Women v Brazil, 2.32am Irish time
    • Ireland Men v Kenya, 4.28am Irish time
    • Ireland Men v New Zealand, 8.49am Irish time

    Sunday, 2nd April

    • Play-off matches.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Opening 7-14 loss to South Africa.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Damnit, got up to watch it then got a phonecall and forgot all about it. I suppose it's not so bad as they lost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Women lost 17-7 to Fiji and lost 19-12 to Australia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Women in the 5th place semi final against France.

    The men are in a 9th place quarter final against Canada.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    The Irish women lost to France 26-14 and will play USA in the 7th place playoff.


    The men beat Uruguay 31-7 and will play Samoa in the 9th place playoff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Two teams in the men's that you wouldn't expect to be playing for a lowly ninth.

    The women were in a tough group.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    The group is based on the finish from the last event. The women are a 3rd seed again after their 8th place finish.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Can Ireland qualify for Olympics via hsbc tour ? Or is there a separate qualification event ? If so would it be a euro qualification tournament, we should get in that way with France already qualified.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Yes they can. They can either qualify through the world series where they must finish in top 4 and if not from there they can qualify as europes representative. there is then a final qualifier which is a global repechage tournament with teams from each area in country.

    we are 10 points behind South Africa who are 5th right now. 3 tournaments left to overhaul that. France are currently 4th but already qualified as host.

    Women are currently in the final spot to qualify for the Olympics with Fiji and GB 2 and 4 points behind with 1 tournament to go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Top 4 qualify (down to 5th if France is top 4).

    The women should be aiming for this. If the last two events had been 5ths or 6ths instead of 8th we would almost be locked in for top 5 (with France top 4). Instead we have a 2 point lead over Fiji and a 4 point lead over GB going into the last event. Both Fiji and GB are in good form (having finished 3rd and 4th last time out).

    There are 3 rounds left in the mens series. We are currently 8th on 91 points. I don't think we will catch South Africa who are 5th (on 101 points) while also overtaking Australia and Samoa.

    After that theres a European qualifier (which has one qualifying team and one slot in an international repechange for the last slot).

    Assuming we don't qualify from the world series it will be between us and GB for the European slot in the mens.

    In the womens should we not qualify we should hope for GB to do well in the last world series event as it will make the European qualifier automatic if they and France aren't taking part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    3 losses this weekend against Argentina, GB and now Japan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Really poor set of results by Ireland. First ever loss to Japan thrown in. They are really struggling without Terry Kennedy. He won us so many close games last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    This was the squad for last years world cup

    Jack Kelly

    Andrew Smith

    Harry McNulty

    Bryan Mollen

    Chay Mullins

    Billy Dardis

    Jordan Conroy

    Hugo Lennox

    Mark Roche

    Terry Kennedy

    Sean Cribbin

    Matt McDonald

    This is the squad for the current world series event.

    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers RFC)

    Sean Cribbin (Suttonians RFC)

    Fergus Jemphrey (Ballynahinch RFC)

    Niall Comerford (UCD RFC/Leinster)

    Hugo Lennox (Skerries RFC)

    Matt McDonald (IQ Rugby)

    Liam McNamara (IQ Rugby)

    Harry McNulty (UCD RFC) (capt)

    Chay Mullins (Galway Corinthians RFC/Connacht/IQ Rugby)

    Dylan O’Grady (UCD RFC)

    Mark Roche (Lansdowne FC)

    Tom Roche (Lansdowne FC)

    Andrew Smith (Clontarf FC/Leinster)


    The players in both squad are Andrew Smith, Mark Roche, Chay Mullins, Harry McNulty, Hugo Lennox and Jordan Conroy. That's 6 out of 12 retained.

    I'm not sure how much of the changes are because someone is injured or someone has been dropped or because players aren't available for selection. It has been a lot of change imo.

    Chay Mullins will be going into year 2 in the Connacht academy next season and might want to focus on 15s and Andrew Smith was also signed by Connacht for next season. That might be 2 of the world cup squad leaving sevens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    We added losses to South Africa and USA to finish 15-16.


    This could well be our worst result since we pulled together a contracted sevens squad.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Have Samoa, Australia and Japan in our group for Toulouse tournament.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    It's really poor ,I wonder was it humidity or illness in camp, I'm clutching at straws here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    european tournaments for men, women and 18s confirmed


    men and women play 2 rounds of european competition. In Algarve June 9-11 and Hamburg July 7-9


    European games is in Krakow June 24-26 and both men and women if they win tournament get an olympic spot


    u18s boys and girls play on July 15/16



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭minitrue


    Let's hope the women have a good weekend in Toulouse and wrap up qualification before the European games. Or if they don't let's hope it's GB who take the last spot so it should only be us Vs Spain really for the European games spot as nobody wants to go to the repêchage for the last spot. It's a pretty brutal high pressure qualification format outside the World Series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Womens squad for next weeks finale in Toulouse

    2 points ahead of Fiji and 4 ahead of GB for the final direct qualification spot for Olympics



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