Irish Rugby and Sevens

The Lost Sheep

First Up wrote: »

Are you saying that Leinster players are chosen for reasons other than merit? Are more deserving players from elsewhere being by- passed? Have you examples?

not at all saying that any player not there on merit. Just disappointed spread of players is so poor.

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

Was the wider training panel ever announced? Presumably guys like Jack Daly and Aaron Sexton will feature in the squads for other world series legs.

I think it's generally two legs and then a break for a few weeks, so any 13-man squad named will probably stay the same for those two weekends, unless there are injuries, I suppose.

no it wasnt.
I say we could see a fair few players getting game time over the series. 10 rounds with 5 sets of 2 rounds back to back.

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

get over yourself. Here what goes again?

What exactly is wrong with having an issue with a national squad overly dominated by players from one area especially in a game that isnt exactly played regularly and it's not like players from leinster play 7s more etc
I would say exact same if it was any other province

Get over myself?
Pot, kettle, black

Having an issue isn't a problem, having an issue that has been discussed to death and voicing that issue in the most passive aggressive manner possible is most definitely a problem.
And if you're a poster that almost instantly replies with "but what would you do to fix it" whenever anyone else voices their displeasure with anything you damn well better obey your own self made rules when you have an issue with something.

A game not played regularly? It's rugby. The basics in 7s are the same as the 15 a side game.
And actually people from leinster would play 7s more, umbrella 7s would be one example of the 7s tournaments played in leinster, open to all teams in the country but only leinster teams entered.

The reasons there's more leinster players in the team than elsewhere are there for anyone that's looking to see.

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Get over myself?
Pot, kettle, black

Having an issue isn't a problem, having an issue that has been discussed to death and voicing that issue in the most passive aggressive manner possible is most definitely a problem.
And if you're a poster that almost instantly replies with "but what would you do to fix it" whenever anyone else voices their displeasure with anything you damn well better obey your own self made rules when you have an issue with something.

A game not played regularly? It's rugby. The basics in 7s are the same as the 15 a side game.
And actually people from leinster would play 7s more, umbrella 7s would be one example of the 7s tournaments played in leinster, open to all teams in the country but only leinster teams entered.

The reasons there's more leinster players in the team than elsewhere are there for anyone that's looking to see.

the game is very different though. You trying to claim what is being coached in other provinces isnt as good as what is done in leinster? Umbrella 7s is a one off event and similar events take place in the other provinces. Connacht have had 7s events for schools/clubs quite regularly and Munster have them for clubs and especially schools both the so called traditional schools and emerging schools.

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

the game is very different though. You trying to claim what is being coached in other provinces isnt as good as what is done in leinster? Umbrella 7s is a one off event and similar events take place in the other provinces. Connacht have had 7s events for schools/clubs quite regularly and Munster have them for clubs and especially schools both the so called traditional schools and emerging schools.

Tackle, pass, ruck, step the basics are all the same they carry over. Cheers for putting words in my mouth, I wasn't trying to say anything like that but whatever you want to think. The fact Leinster are sending players all over the country and further afield in numbers far far greater than any other province says everything though. My point with Umbrella 7s is its not a provincial competition its open to all but only Leinster teams entered.
Get that chip off your shoulder it's embarrassing.

CIARAN_BOYLE

First Up wrote: »

Are you saying that Leinster players are chosen for reasons other than merit? Are more deserving players from elsewhere being by- passed? Have you examples?

I'd say it's a more likely scenario that players from elsewhere are refusing the call up as the money is poor and the training camp is too far away (blanchardstown).

That said I don't know if any have refused a call on that basis.

First Up

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote:

I'd say it's a more likely scenario that players from elsewhere are refusing the call up as the money is poor and the training camp is too far away (blanchardstown).

That said I don't know if any have refused a call on that basis.

Have you players in mind who should be in the squad but who are not - for whatever reason?

The Lost Sheep

Invitational mens and womens squad for Dubai named
https://www.irishrugby.ie/2019/12/03/eddy-names-ireland-squads-for-dubai-invitational-tournament/

kingofthekong

Wanted to see Wren involved , hes a very good player

OldRio

Delighted to see Eanna Madden from Mohill in Co. Leitrim named in the squad. I've know him since he was at school with my youngest.


Very good athlete, it'll be interesting how it goes for him.

luke9311

OldRio wrote: »

Delighted to see Eanna Madden from Mohill in Co. Leitrim named in the squad. I've know him since he was at school with my youngest.


Very good athlete, it'll be interesting how it goes for him.

Wasn’t he with Lansdowne? Says seapoint now? Unless he moved

OldRio

luke9311 wrote: »

Wasn’t he with Lansdowne? Says seapoint now? Unless he moved

To be honest I thought he was still at Lansdowne.

shotgunmcos

I used to follow the series on sky sports the last few years but dropped that now. It says on the site that you can watch live online if no local broadcast. Does that mean its streamed online anyway on the series site?

Loved watching already but with Ireland now a core team and the wonens events synced up really looking forward to this season. Even if Ireland could make the cup half of the draw a couple of times they should be competitive enough to stay up

First Up

shotgunmcos wrote:

I used to follow the series on sky sports the last few years but dropped that now. It says on the site that you can watch live online if no local broadcast. Does that mean its streamed online anyway on the series site?

On Sky Sports from tomorrow morning.

luke9311

OldRio wrote: »

To be honest I thought he was still at Lansdowne.

I thought the same under clicking the link above I hadn’t know he changed to seapoint

shotgunmcos

First Up wrote: »

On Sky Sports from tomorrow morning.

I know that but dont have SS anymore.
I thought you can stream from the HSBC 7s website directly? Or from the app? I guess I'll find out

arsebiscuits1

Caught most of the USA game.

They can be really disappointed to have lost that one to be honest. Didn't take their chances and gave away some soft tries. Game was definitely there for the taking. Really positive to see we're well up for it though. The US are a great side.

Conroy mixed his performance with some dodgy tackling and a really poor drop but absolutely emptied Carlin Isles and forced a turnover.

Kennedy was ok but missed 2 tackles in the space of 5 seconds for a soft US try from their 22.

Hugo Lennox looked very lively. He hasn't seen too much in the starting team but looked up to it.

Ireland have no like for like replacement for Mick McGrath which is a real pity as he'd be a valuable battering ram against teams that don't tend to miss tackles. Although Aaron O'Sullivan is some unit. Could fill that role nicely

kingofthekong

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Caught most of the USA game.

They can be really disappointed to have lost that one to be honest. Didn't take their chances and gave away some soft tries. Game was definitely there for the taking. Really positive to see we're well up for it though. The US are a great side.

Conroy mixed his performance with some dodgy tackling and a really poor drop but absolutely emptied Carlin Isles and forced a turnover.

Kennedy was ok but missed 2 tackles in the space of 5 seconds for a soft US try from their 22.

Hugo Lennox looked very lively. He hasn't seen too much in the starting team but looked up to it.

Ireland have no like for like replacement for Mick McGrath which is a real pity as he'd be a valuable battering ram against teams that don't tend to miss tackles. Although Aaron O'Sullivan is some unit. Could fill that role nicely

Has Mick quit rugby or injured?

Chico Flores

kingofthekong wrote: »

Has Mick quit rugby or injured?

Played last week for Malahide in the AIL

kingofthekong

Chico Flores wrote: »

Played last week for Malahide in the AIL

thought he would be involved maybe trying to focus on 15s

shotgunmcos

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Caught most of the USA game.

They can be really disappointed to have lost that one to be honest. Didn't take their chances and gave away some soft tries. Game was definitely there for the taking. Really positive to see we're well up for it though. The US are a great side.

Conroy mixed his performance with some dodgy tackling and a really poor drop but absolutely emptied Carlin Isles and forced a turnover.

Kennedy was ok but missed 2 tackles in the space of 5 seconds for a soft US try from their 22.

Hugo Lennox looked very lively. He hasn't seen too much in the starting team but looked up to it.

Ireland have no like for like replacement for Mick McGrath which is a real pity as he'd be a valuable battering ram against teams that don't tend to miss tackles. Although Aaron O'Sullivan is some unit. Could fill that role nicely

That fwd pass to Conroy in the corner would have made it 14-12. We could have been even more ahead but for the unforced errors. Nerves maybe. Instead Perry Baker took it to the house to make it 7-19 and momentum shifted. Still respectable start. Hope they can take a win from the next 2 at least, preferably with Conroy rounding quadzilla lol

luke9311

kingofthekong wrote: »

Has Mick quit rugby or injured?

Playing ail for malahide supposedly there strength and conditioning coach too and then as far as I know runs a gym in bird avenues pitches up near dundrum area I think

BlueAndWh1te

Jordan Conroy is mental quick. He needs to up the rest of his game but if he can score 5 tries a game I don't mind it.

The Lost Sheep

So women finished 10th and Men 12th. Many watch the games and how did the development sides do?

The Lost Sheep

Anyone watch the games this weekend unfortunately didnt see any games because of work. Jordan Conroy did very well I see but who else impressed?

shotgunmcos

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Anyone watch the games this weekend unfortunately didnt see any games because of work. Jordan Conroy did very well I see but who else impressed?

First pool game v tight against USA. Handling errors cost us. I less mistake may have got us to the cup draw
Next vs Aus who were on fire and beat us 7tries to 3
It was JC 5 tries against Scotland but some were real team efforts. Last one under the posts 2mins overtime for the win.

11th play off ( straight playoffs and no shield? So only I knock out game for positions 9-16 based on pts different etc in pools). Vs Spain who swarmed around us to stop it getting wide. JC got away for one but we should have had a couple more but for pretty brilliant Spanish last ditch defence. Lost Harry McN after game one.

Overall 12th but on team stats, pts, tackles, tries, clean breaks etc Ireland was top 6-9. Basically dangerous attack but work to do on D. Lose our shape too easily. I'm sure that will come over the season.

As for who else impressed
I thought Greg O Shea was a good link and decent playmaker
TK was dangerous but needs to pass earlier
Hugo Lennox and Aaron O Sullivan lively
Billy D and Mark R ok too

Richie_Rich89

Is there anywhere online where you can watch the games again? I missed the ones v Aus and Spain.

Squidgy Black

Mick McGrath was playing with the Ramblin Jesters for Dubai 7s, a couple of lads have played with them before (McNulty and Roche played with them back in August)

First Up

Squidgy Black wrote:

Mick McGrath was playing with the Ramblin Jesters for Dubai 7s, a couple of lads have played with them before (McNulty and Roche played with them back in August)

Would have thought McGrath was a key player for Ireland.

Squidgy Black

Squads named for Cape Town:

Aaron O’Sullivan (Blackrock College/Leinster)
Adam Leavy (Lansdowne)
Billy Dardis (Terenure College) (capt)
Greg O’Shea (Shannon)
Harry McNulty (UCD)
Hugo Lennox (Skerries)
Jack Kelly (Dublin University)
John O’Donnell (Lansdowne)
Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers)
Mark Roche (Lansdowne)
Terry Kennedy (St. Mary’s College)
Liam Turner (Dublin University/Leinster) *
Peter Maher (Old Belvedere)

Kathy Baker (Blackrock/Leinster)
Claire Boles (Railway Union/Ulster)
Megan Burns (Tullamore/Leinster)
Amee-Leigh Murphy Crowe (Railway Union/Munster) (co-capt)
Anna Doyle (DCU/Leinster)
Kate Farrell McCabe (DCU/Leinster) *
Katie Fitzhenry (Blackrock/Leinster) (co-capt)
Louise Galvin (UL Bohemians/Munster)
Eve Higgins (Railway Union/Leinster)
Brittany Hogan (DCU/Ulster)
Emily Lane (Mallow/Munster)
Deirbhile Nic a Bhaird (Old Belvedere/Munster)
Hannah Tyrrell (Old Belvedere/Leinster)

nerd69

Some improvement from last week in fairness