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Irish Rugby and Sevens

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    #1232
    Squidgy Black
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    Izuchukwu grabs the winner for Ireland on the final play against USA


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    #1233
    First Up
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    Playing France or Argentina in the final. Argentina were scarey good against England.


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    #1234
    A-Train
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Izuchukwu grabs the winner for Ireland on the final play against USA

    Just turned it to see the last 2 minutes of that match. It looks crazy.


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    #1235
    TheAnalyst_
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    Loving this more than sevens tbh. The energy and speed of the game is massive.


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    #1236
    Squidgy Black
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    A-Train wrote: »
    Just turned it to see the last 2 minutes of that match. It looks crazy.

    It's absolutely mental, but it's so entertaining. It's just pure end to end, and it never stops. Other than the scrums which are uncontested, there's no lineouts (subs throw the ball in), there's no restarts (just starts again from the 5 metre line) and there's not many rucks really due to being 5v5.


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    #1237
    A-Train
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    It's absolutely mental, but it's so entertaining. It's just pure end to end, and it never stops. Other than the scrums which are uncontested, there's no lineouts (subs throw the ball in), there's no restarts (just starts again from the 5 metre line) and there's not many rucks really due to being 5v5.

    It’s relentless. Some fitness levels required.


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    #1238
    TheAnalyst_
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    Sneaky from the argies. Everyone wanted the 1v1


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    #1239
    S.M.B.
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    Seems an odd way to win a final.


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    #1240
    Squidgy Black
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    S.M.B. wrote: »
    Seems an odd way to win a final.

    It's hilarious that none of the players really know the rules. Perry Baker said in his interview that the US team didn't even really want to be there at the start, Izuchukwu said they had only really started training for it two weeks ago and even then it was just sort of casual.


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    #1241
    First Up
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    Some funny rules. Don't understand what happened at the end of France-Argentina and the "first to 3" rule for the one on one is ridiculous. England won because they got first go! USA never given a third attempt.


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    #1242
    S.M.B.
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    France - Argentina ended with a penalty that led to no advantage but the French assumed it was over.

    Apparently with the one on ones whoever scores last in normal time goes first.


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    #1243
    ScrubsfanChris
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    Scoring seems far too easy, especially from scrums. Think 5 person rugby might not be enough.


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    #1244
    Squidgy Black
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    ScrubsfanChris wrote: »
    Scoring seems far too easy, especially from scrums. Think 5 person rugby might not be enough.

    That's the whole appeal of it though. Rapid fire, end to end.

    It's more for the mainstream than the actual rugby fans to be honest.


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    #1245
    A-Train
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    Was the last try not a forward pass?


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    #1246
    A-Train
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    That’s that


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    #1247
    First Up
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    All a bit chaotic but something different. Teams will adapt - are any other such events planned anywhere else?

    Respectable effort by the Irish lads; would like to see how Jordan Conroy get on.


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    #1248
    Squidgy Black
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    First Up wrote: »
    All a bit chaotic but something different. Teams will adapt - are any other such events planned anywhere else?

    Respectable effort by the Irish lads; would like to see how Jordan Conroy get on.

    Nothing's been announced yet but I know Ben Ryan was talking about it as a long term regular thing, saying it'll provide a regular income stream for players in between World Series events and Olympic Qualifiers etc.

    This was the pilot really, so I guess it's depending on the viewership/attendance for this one as to whether it's financially feasible or not.


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    #1249
    Hands Like Flippers
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    Were Ireland men in a sevens competition this weekend? If so, how did they do?


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    #1250
    Squidgy Black
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    Hands Like Flippers wrote: »
    Were Ireland men in a sevens competition this weekend? If so, how did they do?

    Yeah they played in Elche 7s, they topped the group with wins over Portugal, Scotland and Viator 7s, beat Spanish Barbarians in the quarters, Spain in the semis then lost to France 14-5 in the final.

    Foster Horan (Lansdowne)
    Adam Leavy (Lansdowne)
    Harry McNulty (UCD)
    John O’Donnell (Lansdowne)
    Aaron O’Sullivan (Blackrock/Leinster)
    Cormac Izuchukwu (Old Wesley)
    Mark Roche (Lansdowne)
    Billy Dardis (Terenure College) (capt)
    Greg O’Shea (Shannon)
    Iwan Hughes (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary’s College)
    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers)
    Aaron Sexton (Malone/Ulster)
    Peter Maher (Old Belvedere)
    Hugo Lennox (Clontarf)


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    #1251
    guapos
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    How did Aaron Sexton get on? It will interesting to see how he goes at 7s with all that pace


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    #1252
    mogwai81
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    Squad for Dubai. Any word on Aaron Sexton?Didn't make the squad.

    Ireland men’s squad:
    Aaron O’Sullivan (Blackrock/Leinster)*
    Adam Leavy (Lansdowne)
    Billy Dardis (Terenure College)(captain)
    Bryan Mollen (Blackrock College)
    Foster Horan (Lansdowne)
    Greg O’Shea (Shannon)
    Harry McNulty (UCD)
    Hugo Lennox (Skerries)
    Jack Kelly (Dublin University)
    John O’Donnell (Lansdowne)
    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers)
    Mark Roche (Lansdowne)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary’s College)


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    #1253
    The Lost Sheep
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    mogwai81 wrote: »
    Squad for Dubai. Any word on Aaron Sexton?Didn't make the squad.

    Ireland men’s squad:
    Aaron O’Sullivan (Blackrock/Leinster)*
    Adam Leavy (Lansdowne)
    Billy Dardis (Terenure College)(captain)
    Bryan Mollen (Blackrock College)
    Foster Horan (Lansdowne)
    Greg O’Shea (Shannon)
    Harry McNulty (UCD)
    Hugo Lennox (Skerries)
    Jack Kelly (Dublin University)
    John O’Donnell (Lansdowne)
    Jordan Conroy (Buccaneers)
    Mark Roche (Lansdowne)
    Terry Kennedy (St. Mary’s College)
    maybe but much for a young relatively inexperienced guy to step up to that level considering it's debut as core side

    Still kind of surprised at how leinster dominated these squads are


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    #1254
    arsebiscuits1
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    maybe but much for a young relatively inexperienced guy to step up to that level considering it's debut as core side

    Still kind of surprised at how leinster dominated these squads are

    It's not too Leinster dominated I don't think - unless you're referring to Leinster location as opposed to Leinster Rugby.

    Conroy and Leavy were with the Connacht academy.

    McNulty and O'Shea were with the Munster academy.

    O'Donnell and O'Sullivan are exiles (even though O'Sullivan is with Leinster, he was capped by Wasps in 2018)

    The likes of Lennox and Roche are Leinster based, but did they represent Leinster underage?


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    #1255
    The Lost Sheep
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    It's not too Leinster dominated I don't think - unless you're referring to Leinster location as opposed to Leinster Rugby.

    Conroy and Leavy were with the Connacht academy.

    McNulty and O'Shea were with the Munster academy.

    O'Donnell and O'Sullivan are exiles (even though O'Sullivan is with Leinster, he was capped by Wasps in 2018)

    The likes of Lennox and Roche are Leinster based, but did they represent Leinster underage?
    i was referring to the province not professional team. Leavy still from Dublin.
    Conroy is from offaly. Lennox, Roche are from leinster, play in leinster. It's completely dominated by players from leinster, or playing pro for leinster which is a bit diaappointing


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    #1256
    Squidgy Black
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    i was referring to the province not professional team. Leavy still from Dublin.
    Conroy is from offaly. Lennox, Roche are from leinster, play in leinster. It's completely dominated by players from leinster, or playing pro for leinster which is a bit diaappointing

    The pittance they're paid plays a major part in that unfortunately, it's a massive commitment for any lads further out than Leinster to be travelling back and forth to Blanchardstown on a regular basis for what's essentially a development contract, or minimum wage. Especially now that they're going to be on the circuit which means they'll be full time.


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    #1257
    D14Rugby
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Still kind of surprised at how leinster dominated these squads are

    Here we go again... If you can't work out why it's "Leinster dominated" you haven't really thought about it.


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    #1258
    arsebiscuits1
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    i was referring to the province not professional team. Leavy still from Dublin.
    Conroy is from offaly. Lennox, Roche are from leinster, play in leinster. It's completely dominated by players from leinster, or playing pro for leinster which is a bit diaappointing

    You're really looking too hard be disappointed so.

    Conroy was picked up based on his club form from Bucs. Tell those fellas he's from Leinster :rolleyes:

    Also, Harry McNulty was born in Bahrain and grew up in the States.

    Really disappointing we couldn't get someone closer to the province and had to outsource so far


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    #1259
    The Lost Sheep
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Here we go again... If you can't work out why it's "Leinster dominated" you haven't really thought about it.
    get over yourself. Here what goes again?

    What exactly is wrong with having an issue with a national squad overly dominated by players from one area especially in a game that isnt exactly played regularly and it's not like players from leinster play 7s more etc
    I would say exact same if it was any other province


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    #1260
    First Up
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    The Lost Sheep wrote:
    What exactly is wrong with having an issue with a national squad overly dominated by players from one area especially in a game that isnt exactly played regularly and it's not like players from leinster play 7s more etc I would say exact same if it was any other province


    Are you saying that Leinster players are chosen for reasons other than merit? Are more deserving players from elsewhere being by- passed? Have you examples?


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    #1261
    Richie_Rich89
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    Was the wider training panel ever announced? Presumably guys like Jack Daly and Aaron Sexton will feature in the squads for other world series legs.

    I think it's generally two legs and then a break for a few weeks, so any 13-man squad named will probably stay the same for those two weekends, unless there are injuries, I suppose.


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