Who has Priority here? Almost Fatal Accident

Well common sense would tell me that to just barrel across the road without taking care would not be the way to go.

Lookit, it’s clear to me the cycle lane ends at the road.

Its clear to me that the cyclist should stop and check if it’s safe before crossing.

Theres a lot of ,quite frankly, rubbish being talked here which kind of typifies certain attitudes that some folk seem to have,and that is if it’s not marked out in black and white it’s ok to do it.

They seem not to be able to think for themselves, as is patently evident from some of the replies here.

The cyclist for all their bells and whistles just got it wrong…..it happenens… happens to me …suck it up and learn from it instead of indulging in pedantic contortions on a social media platform.

If you can come up with a better word to describe cycling positive glasses then by all means, but I think 100% of people know what "Lycra Tinted Glasses" means, maybe fewer would get "Carbon Tinted Glasses" and after that the take-up would drop off a cliff.

Its on topic, but isn't it odd how cyclists are obsessed with finding any thread and finding a way to blame the person in the car? (Am I doing it right?)

Because they do unpredictable things including moving in front of people who have right of way?

Lots of the usual weird trolling going on by "concerned motorists" here.

A few details:

1. There's a lot of blame going to the local authority here: this is very much more of a TII issue than a LA issue. TII were quite actively involved in this abysmal "design", both its initial version and the 2022 iteration
2. People are saying it's a side-road, but let's be realistic, it's Ferrero and a private dwelling. It's a private entrance and should be treated as such. All proposed upgrades (one by the LA/TII and one by BusConnects) treat it as a private dwelling. There is no destination for any kind of through-traffic here. And speaking as someone who has been to ferrero a lot of times, you won't be using that road without their security taking interest.
3. There's no direction for cyclist or driver in the current design: anyone saying "of course X had right of way" will have a very hard time proving their point.

Of course, don't worry I'm just being pedantic because I think it's important for people to know that our national body responsible for road design such as this one is absolutely incompetent and putting people in danger.

There's a couple of you here with the clear perception that the cycle track ended, could you tell us a little bit more about that?

I seem to be somewhat lacking...I can't seem to find the "yield", "end" or "dismount" signs. Could you possibly point them out to us so that the OP will know from what point they must stop?

It's hardly just your assumption that the cycle track ended....is it? I assume that since you know for sure that the cycle lane ended, that you also know WHERE it ended...

Neither driver nor cyclist got any explicit direction here. Terrible road design. A better driver would have waited, but the OP won't chance it again.

@OP please write to the council about it. You won't be the first, and I'll help you word it if you like.

Look at the words you used for the cyclist compared to the driver, its clear who you believe to be at fault.

The cyclist was a naughty scamp but the driver is a maniac who needs to see a psychiatrist.

Other road users approach everyone all the time, if your expectation is that every motorist should stop in case some other road user does something idiotic then I would suggest this is an impractical position to hold.

Switch motorist for cyclist in your question and come back to me, especially considering that one of them people is significantly more likely to fare badly in the event of a collision.

Of course right of way doesnt trump everything, but I'm not going to come to a stop everytime there is an possible interaction with another road user,

The whole point of "right of way" is to avoid accidents but also to avoid everyone having to stop and figure out who goes first.

I both cycle and drive and also walk, there is no cycle lane markings, OP should have checked, driver should have checked, if I was walking on the same path, I would be bloody mad just to walk off footpath and straight across road without checking for traffic, OP should have checked and not be trying to place blame ,just be sensible , driver should have checked in either case I would have. Both okay no harm do luckily this time.

Because the car would have cut across in front of the cyclist, it's called a left hook. The car was the one changing direction.

Defending the indefensible, from the guy defending the driver who apparently forgot about the cyclist he passed just one second earlier? Really?

Who said that anyone was mowed down in this incident?

Would the 'anything behind' not have seen the driver indicating, and indeed seen the cyclist too? Always the excuses for the sh1ttiest of driving.

Thats not a left hook and the car didnt cut infront of anyone. The "lane" the cyclist or pedsetrian or jogger or whoever, was at and end. They continued on regardless into traffic. Anything else is in your head.

You are actually doing a disservice to cyclists (like myself I might add) with this nonsense.

Actual left hooks are a curse, cars cut across bike and buslanes all day everyday in Dublin, but this wasnt that. This was poor and dangerous cycling.

Excellent post Cram and some much needed tips to inexperienced cyclists.

A key point seems to have been forgotten in much or all of the above discussion. We are required to drive/cycle with “due care and attention” (RTA, 1968). If you fail to do that, you’ve broken the law irrespective of the presence or absence of road markings and signage.

What video?

That’s the kind of stupid post which typifies the situation we are discussing.

Theres no “war” out there .

There are arrogant bonehead motorists, there are arrogant bonehead cyclists.

Instead of encouraging cyclists to “tool up” for the conflict, it might be better to encourage them to use common sense and work with others to ensure road safety