Fighter jets for the Air Corps?

Sure you did lmao you made yourself look proper silly with a nonsense comparison.

Defeated...Another one bites the dust.

Great to see you've recovered from the shock of learning that Denmark, Belgium and Netherlands are all in NATO... any other matter's you'd like me to educate you on?

When you are put to the question and have to run or conveniently "decline to engage further" rather than address it you are beaten and soundly beaten.

Never seen so many people so insecure in there own views that they have to label anyone that says Ireland doesn't really need fighter jets as a troll and a radical 🤣🤣

He disagrees with us! Ban him ! Block him! Quick! 🤣🤣

I'd love to know the tactic when ye have someone that doesn't agree with ye in the real world... Stick yer fingers in yer ears and start yelling lalalalal till they go away? Is it? 🤣🤣

Do provide sources that say we are absolutely getting jets, id imagine the "funding" part will be very interesting and a significant counter weigh to the "need" proposed by our supposed war fighting experts.

Again in what way is Ireland a "gaping hole" and whos attacking us and how? the fact that not one of you can answer this is proof enough that this whole concept is utter hyperbolic nonsense to encourage spending billions on jet's yes that's right folks your fighter jets and all that come with them will run bills into the BILLIONs, this idea that we'll have a few of the cheapest jets on a shoe string budget and wont still be the "gaping hole" in western defense is laughable.

So many flaw's in the logic of all this it's ridiculous start to finish. I think sense will prevail and this idea will be let fizzle out and die hopefully we pay enough tax it should be spent better than on the kneejerk notion's of defence "experts" that have never seen combat let alone full scale war.

Here's your qoute

"The issue is that the conversation about need has been had, and concluded, with the outcome being that the need is there.

The conversation has now moved on to requirements, suitability and funding."

Unless of course you are saying the conversation has in fact not been concluded and there is still plenty to discuss, the above quote implies a certainty and states a conclusion of agreement where we are in fact buying fighter jets.. which is it?

I find it amusing when people say such hyperbolic things like " We are the gaping whole in western Europe's defence" who exactly is relying on us for defence ? a gaping hole to where? fairly sure the UK has the entire region under control with or without us.

Please enlighten us as to what this hole in the western defence is and why is there a sudden urgency to defend it and why are we being relied upon to do a role that is apparently ultra critical to the survival of western Europe.. also... who exactly is this so called "threat" to western europe all of a sudden..??

Its great saying their is this imaginary chink in the armor but it has no depth in reality. I find it very odd and worrisome that so called experts are stating these things... So far you have produced 0 evidence for these claims nor has anyone else infairness.

No one is dragging anyone anywhere ye love the dramatics, this thread has been going for 5 or 6 years what's the purpose of the thread if new posters cant discuss all aspects of the topic because they will be bashed by a clique of posters who've been on this thread for 5-6 years and "know it all".. i think the people that have been here 5 + years need to just leave if they get offended by people with opposing view points or posters that bring up a topic they feel has been discussed.

If your seeing the same topic over and over again maybe you've been here too long and don't really have any grounds for complaint ?

You talk about moving goal posts but you completely avoided and side stepped points in my previous post we both know you cant answer..

Thought i was "ignored!" in your last dramatic reply, make up your mind will you its coming across slightly bipolar, you either want to debate the point or you're too elitist and know it all to entertain anything beyond what you believe to be correct. Try to keep your emotions in check as well child, someone disagreeing with our country getting jets isnt a personal attack on you...

If you cant differentiate between the level of threats faced by the Ukraine and the threats faced by Ireland... and are trying to use said conflict as a reason for increased military spending here.. you shouldn't even be discussing this topic let alone have the neck to believe your superior to anyone.

The fact remains and this is an absolute undeniable fact, we have done decades on decades without fighter jets and got by absolutely fine flawlessly in fact! Yet now all of a sudden out of thin air there is an imminent threat and we direly, urgently need fighter jets.... yeah im not buying it and most people capable of logical rationale thought dont either.

It's billions of euros down the drain to all but soothe the paranoia of a few without any realistic justification for such spending (and for the love of god before you cry about billions please educate yourself on the cost of not just the aircraft but all the support/planning that goes with it for years..fighter jets arent just for xmas there for life!)

Don't get it twisted your little echo chamber clique in here isn't an indication your "Correctness".