Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

RDS beating Trump is absurd to consider in a primary. The base of RDS is the more educated wealthy GOP voters , but the rubes aka the majority who vote idolise Trump. RDS to beat Trump would need the primary to between the two of them, but its going to be crowded which is perfect for Trump as about 40% of the base are all in for him which is more than enough.

Beating Trump in a primary wouldn't be much easier than beating Obama in a Dem primary (if he was allowed to run).

Best case for RDS is to hope Trumps health fails and he gets barred from running legally but that seems highly unlikely.

Looking at Fox News [as I do in order to get an ALTERNATIVE view of the news front being fed to the US public] Trump is blasting Maricopa County for voter fraud, a scam with voting machines not working in republican areas. Keri lake taken to a liberal democrat area to vote, Blake Masters had the election stolen from him, re-run the election.

At some stage, while he's rehearing the lines, his brain must recognize that what he's saying over and over is a big lie.

Of course he does.

Of course they all do.

But they can't admit to failure.

They're pragmatists.

Masters was gung-ho anti abortion to attract votes for his selection. All that image was instantly ditched once he had to attract the moderates and face off agsinst Kelly. People saw through all of that.

Lake has spent the past 6 months telling anyone who will listen the exact same line that trump spun 2 years ago.

"If I win then its a perfect election, and if i lose then it will have been stolen by the libs."

It's ego and greed, and at this stage, beyond just being plain false, it's wearying for the vast majority of the reasonable electorate with even a smidgeon of common sense.

They know its not true, but their whole credibility is wrapped up in this lie. They've nothing beyond this "DEMs are bad" conspiracy to offer.

And that's why they've failed so badly in these midterms.

Looking at the CNN reports on the vote result so far, in particular the part where the California Reps results are shown and a number [single or double digit] is shown, is that a reference to the Reps district in California? I see California has 53 Congress districts so I'm assuming the numbers refer to the Congress districts.

Thats the truth. Trump's "if we [GOP] win that's down to me, if we [GOP] lose, that's not down to me" is a primetime example.

I can see how conscious/unconscious bias plays a strong part in how people choose what pass for reliable reports by relying on particular internet and media sources. For myself, I rely on CNN, WaPo and NYT mainly with spot checks on Bloomberg HD and random newspapers from around the US to verify what my prime sources tell me.

If it's really peculiar, I look up FoxNews to see if it has a reverse angle from Trump to confirm there is something in the story. Trump does his best to get people, including those in his support base, knickers in a twist.

I guess that if Mitch McConnell stays on [he says he has the votes needed] as senate minority leader in the new session, it will cause Trump to have another tantrum before/around the time of his important annnouncement. I'm waiting for another person [or 2] to deliberately let the media know they are thinking of running for the fun of it and give him another meltdown - glances at Pence and Desantis.

He must still be making good money from the MAGA base with the fundraising text messages and emails.

Also proably hoping as a candidate he can hold off the wave of law suits against him.

I note that the final votes are taking a very suspiciously long time to tally for Congress.

Should the election for Congress be annulled until they can work out wtf is going on?

Maybe replay the elections in those states where the Dems have clearly done less well than expected?

We can respect the results when they are shown to be FAIR!!!

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So, how much more restrictive is this on his ability to raise funds?

Don seems to be taking the news that AG Garland has appointed a special counsel to oversee the investigation into the documents found at Mar-A-Lago and involvement with the Capitol insurrection bid calmly. It seems Dons legal team had been expecting the bad news.

I think that as well, a way of saying "it's an independent investigation, outside presidential and DOJ reins". As for the calls to appoint one to investigate Biden's son, there is an existing one already appointed during the Trump presidency, though some GOP people seem to have forgotten about it.