Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Thats 1 from Dunboyne plus the guy from Rathoath who was injured in Iziam a few weeks back. I wonder if the went out together given they only lived a few kilometers away from each other.

Komical Kiril.

RIP. A lot of posters here talk a good fight, he actually went there and did it. Whatever his motives were, he fought for the right side and his family can be proud of him, terrible as the loss is

I am thinking Russia will become the 21st century version of "The Sick Man of Europe". In the 19th Century they had The Ottomans. The collapsing Ottoman empire required outside help from Western and Northern Europe to keep the wolves from the door.

The same might well be the future for Russia in the next 50 years.

I love the way Russians propagandists cannot wrap their head around your first point(or don't want to). It cannot POSSIBLY be that Ukraine wants to pivot towards the rest of Europe of its own volition. It must be a product of what Mearscheimer referred to as 'Western social engineering'. Some sort of Jedi mind trick by sneaky Anglo Saxon satanists... Of course Ukraine wouldn't fancy the opportunities offered by pivoting toward the EU. Who would, except almost every former Warsaw Pact country? Sure, aren't they all queueing up to join whatever Russia's equivalent is? (Looks out window) Well, actually... No, they're not. They're really not.

It is a war fought in the media and internet too. Russians are referred to as orcs and ukrainians are referred as khokhols. In case you get confused who is who. :)

Some love from "twitter" today it's feeling unappreciated all of a sudden.....

What's the odds of being that lucky

Twitter is not rubbish, and neither is Telegram. I was watching Al Jazeera and a program about the Azerbaijan Armenia conflict. One of the guests talked about how the negotiations were made more difficult by the nicely timed release on Telegram of a video showing Azerbaijan troops, executing Armenian 6 POWs.

The Ukrainian armed forces and government all have very active Telegram channels. I think anyone who hasn't looked at the official media channels the Ukrainian government uses would be quite shocked at how heavily they use Telegram for official stuff, which is what got me interested in it. Before taking a hard look, I too was dismissive and soon realised I was completely wrong.

https://www.wired.com/story/telegram-ukraine-russia-channels-signal/

https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/07/how-journalists-in-ukraine-have-turned-telegram-into-a-preferred-source-of-news/

This thread would have been dire and next to useless without all the twitter links.

You seem capable of filtering out the rubbish... twitter and telegram posts on here in many occasions provided the information that was only verified by an official source days later .... take the Ukrainian offensive in Kharkiv as an example ... same platforms were also used for disinformation towards the Russians by ukraine ... useful rubbish that was

Without Twitter links the true stories and developments would have been posted a few hours or maybe a day later from reliable sources, and we'd have been spared an awful lot of the fake news crap that was posted. I'd call that a net gain. Though it's no surprise that the same individuals were responsible for a lot of those silly rumours.

On your broader point, though, I agree, and I'd say it's not twitter and telegram themselves that are the problem, but the people who use them. Breaking news from a reliable source is as useful on Twitter as it is anywhere else. The issue is when persons with zero credibility posts sensational rumours and gullible fools start posting it here just because they like the sound of it. I think we can all agree there's a successful balance that can be found between the two extremes?