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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It's what the Ukrainians call them, along with rashists and other terms. They never call them Russians. Personally I am quite comfortable in taking their direction as to appropriate nomenclature, and feel they have several times over earned the right to define it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭Fastpud


    Very good article detailing all the bad options facing Russian troops in Kherson

    https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1577324136220839937?s=46&t=jXQrjt7DbAg1fMHzC-V13Q



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,080 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    That would be big alright

    Ukraine forces would be at Inhulets nearer Kherson City if true



  • Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Loos like things are happening fast now in Kherson

    Russian are routed again and on the run

    Closing in on Beryslav and Kherson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭xxxxxxl


    As I said after the first big Ukrainian counter attack the wheels came off the russians. It really does seem they spent their time looting and drinking and not setting up any kind of credible defenses.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    ‼️The Lockheed Martin company brought a model of the M142 HIMARS installation to the exhibition of the ground forces' armaments, which is currently being held in Brisbane, Australia. To the question "Why so?" the representative of the company stated that all free copies are undergoing combat testing in Ukraine.

    Nice one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭farmerval


    Putin has been the master troll for years. He has normalised brazen behaviour and I think he's been the poster boy for the likes of Trump and Orban etc. That he normalised having the Chechnans and the Wagner group committing atrocities for him, murdering opponents all over the world.

    Destroying Putin is massively important, and possibly more important is to destroy the networks he built round the world, whose only role is to ferment trouble, support loons that will challenge the establishment and try and sow dissent of any kind throughout Europe and god knows where.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,619 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    "Putin just annexed Kherson, so he refuses to give it up... which means he has doomed all the Russian troops there to death."

    A lot of Hitler 1945 vibes about this one.



  • Posts: 634 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Russia today? No. Their sister channel

    For a laugh this what he said back in march. This is the most watched “news” channel in America folks.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,886 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


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    Zelensky to Putin



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,304 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    It is more of a parody at wokeism these days. Indo describes Musk in their article as:

    Elon Musk is a very wealthy white guy. And very wealthy white guys believe they are entitled to weigh in on everything. Ideally, wealthy white guys would be ridiculed for this, and sometimes they are. But there are also times when their wealth and power allows them to force others to take them seriously. And that can be dangerous.

    While other very wealthy white guys like Bill get a free pass when they offer their view take on world affairs. That is funny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Good morning folks.

    Any of you follow this guy? Ryan McBeth. Interesting and likable chap. Ex-tank killer from the US, and makes very good analysis most of the time.

    This one is his latest and, like the Mark Felton piece which also looked at a similar scenario, is quite interesting. Worth a watch. The only thing glossed over would be UKs reaction. The British always have one, and now two, Subs at the ready, out at sea, each with up to 80 warheads.

    Also, and the horse is definitely out of the stable here, Ireland's data-centres could potentially be a target.

    On a personal note, coming from a military family, with some experience abroad in an aviation capacity, my heart breaks when I see what our armed forces have been reduced to. The PDFORRA conference was depressing and, from what I've read, we are losing while classes of recruits.

    For example, one class went to work for a large multinational as part of their work placement. The Company was so impressed with their work ethic, that they bought out all their contracts, at €30000 each, and they left the army.

    That's just Mr.Bean level of incompetence by all concerned.

    We had a better armed forces when the Fouga Magisters and Marchetti warriors were flying in the 70's and 80's. For God's sake.

    We even had a ship-based helicopter Squadron.

    Anyway, I think we should consider ourselves to be a target, not that we can do anything about it. However, I know anecdotally that the Government is now under Immense pressure from the US and NATO, behind closed doors, to do something to protect our extremely strategic island in the Atlantic.

    Mark my words, if we are all still around, our armed forces will be unrecognisable to us in 5-10 years.

    https://youtu.be/FYWcgF4Wwog



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think a billionaire taking polls on how a war will end is pretty tasteless, particularly when he has influence simply by virtue of wealth. Gates simply has not done anything remotely comparable to how Musk is approaching it.


    Anyway, I do want to raise that viewpoint that Musk is pushing.. Giving up of territories I can ignore but that line about Ukraine remaining "neutral" is more about removing a nations right to self determination. Anything that Putin views as western is a violation. So that would include joining NATO(which Russia were doing joint operations with until very recently) and joining the EU. So basically any guarantees of safety for Ukraine and economic progress is viewed as a violation of "neutrality". It's a bs line and rich dickheads pushing it is pretty abhorrent. Reminds me a bit of Henry Ford.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Irish citizen killed in action

    Rory Mason, 23,Dunboyne, Co Meath was fighting in the International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine as part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    You don't have to like it ,

    They have been called orcs early on and will continue to be called orcs till every last one has been anilated and all of Ukraine is liberated



  • Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sorry if this is a basic question but why does Russia not have aerial superiority over Ukraine? You'd think they would be completely dominant and decisive. Is it the anti-aircraft weapons provided to Ukraine that are levelling the playing field?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    I do wonder if this guy is directly paid by russia ?

    It is effective though. I have heard this theory that putin was actually provoked into this invasion/genocide on various US platforms and Americans believe it. They then go the Joe Rogan experience and recycle this theory and sound very adamant about, like they have the real truth and the main stream media isn’t given putin fair and balanced coverage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Huh?

    According to that lad the UK will be obliterated, what do you expect us do?

    It's the usual Nuclear War porn doing the rounds at the minute.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,933 ✭✭✭threeball


    Musk would identify with Putin, his methods of working are similar. Enrich himself with other peoples money, come up with an idea then ask others to implement it. Blame them if its not going fast enough, blame them if it doesn't work, Fire with impunity, bully and silence, push an image of being a disruptor for good when really his only interest is power and wealth. Berate how the rest of the world works, if only everyone were like me. Rinse and repeat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    That's an interesting view of Musk. He's a guy with what, 8 kids by 3 women? Something like that. He's clearly nuclear-class arrogant, and in it for the money.

    He's supposedly super intelligent, taught himself rocket design with all the associated physics and engineering training. So, he's no dummy. Putler's a psycopathic goon like Stalin and the various Soviet leaders. I don't get that vibe off of Musk, but I don't follow his antics close enough. Narcissistic yes, smart yes, psychopath - probably not.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    Here's some text from an older post of mine that explains it.

    " I think it's a mixture of poor training, paranoia and a very different theatre of operations compared to Syria. Russia knows that there is now a pretty strong SAM threat in Ukranian airspace, with both Russian built high altitude units and low level, shoulder-launched systems. There is also a major Overwatch operation of Ukranian and, to some extent, Russian airspace by both NATO and US aircraft with Radar and Signals gathering systems.

    Russian pilots train less than 100 hrs a year. They are also not used to multi-aircraft, multi-objective operations. This is why, in Syria, you only saw one or two flying missions.

    Finally, Russia do not train in a Red Flag type of scenario ( I'll let you Google Red Flag for a reference..). NATO are much better at launching multiple platform, multi-role and multiple target missions in one foul sweep. Putin knows this. He knows that Nato have everything in place to hit Russia in one night, conventially, that would destroy the Russian military infrastructure. Hence the Nuclear threat.

    This is why there is a massive sub hunt going on at the moment. The West needs to account for every single sub at the moment, including the one that left the Northern base yesterday.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    You can be neutral and armed to the teeth, ready to kill any invader. QV Switzerland. Joining the EU wouldn't break neutrality.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,325 ✭✭✭Guffy


    It's an attempt to dehumanise them so that the deaths are more pallatable. 60k orcs dead is a lot easier for most people to digest than 60k men. It's standard in war, German's were called the huns and pictured as Gorillas for eg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Those simpletons are getting their disinformation from Russian bot farms.

    Now they are either too stupid to realise they are been force fed lies, or they don't care because it makes them rich.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭Wes M.


    I've been a little drunk on the successes of the UA in the last few weeks, celebrating every win, and Russian loss, but I have to remember that there are many variables in this war - Ukrainian skill and grit, Russian mismanagement, continued Western support, and the emerging influence of the weather. I've never felt so optimistic as I do now, but I won't sleep well until the Russians finally sue for peace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭circadian



    Don't see Bill lambasting professionals and calling them peadophiles on social media because he came up with a stupid idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,431 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Problem is you are trying to defend open countryside. The front was probable over a thousand KM long.

    It's virtually impossible to harden that length of area in a few months. Even if you do you need artillery and air cover to protect against attack. As well you need tanks and APV's to have a mobile for e to counter attack any incursions.

    This is where Hitler failed in Normandy. Remember the Allies got ashore under tremendous fire, but Hitler failure to commit his tanks and reserves allowed the allies to secure bridgeheads.

    The Russians have no tanks or artillery and there airforce is unable to fly as they will be shot out of the sky

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Posts: 6,559 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh I know it wouldn't but Russia has always pushed it as if it would be a breach of neutrality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭bad2thebone


    Well hopefully if they're sending people from prison's into the battle field, child abusers, rapist's etc are on the front line.

    The more vaporized the better.



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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    IMHO Russia's talk about NATO is a red herring in many ways. They well knew before all this that Ukraine was many years away from being accepted into NATO. Even after all this it still is. Russia and putin supporters are damned near 100% also anti EU. There's a reason for that. It's the EU Russia fears far more. Military threats are one thing, but neighbours who look like you and used to be close to you living better lives away from you in plain sight is the far bigger threat to an autocratic society.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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