Smart Tariff Unit Rates

This is starting to look like trying to get health insurance. Deliberately confusing rates to baffle the customer.

Good deal bad deal who the fuxk has a clue.

so with Energia announcing their 0.1962 CEG rate, I halfheartedly started looking into smart rates again, and once again I'm flabbergasted & disgusted by their behaviour, and also how the 'regulation' is woefully inadequate or plain absent. is there any supplier not taking the piss re. smart rates?

I am currently getting a new electric connection to a house I am renovating.I have a EV so was interested in Bord Gais EV tariff with discount count it was coming in at 5.4 cent per unit for 3 hour window. I am also thinking of loading a powewall battery during same window to maximize the window when the guy from Bord Gais went to sign me up to the tariff he couldn't because he said the smart meter wouldn't have good enough data signal so I can't avail of any smart tariff is this the norm what is the point then of the smart meter. My phone can get decent signal and the house is only 3km from a big enough town.

Does the CFT value effect the ability to ready for FIT units?

The limit is 100kWh per billing cycle.

I'm new to this. Getting solar installed shortly. I have a smart meter. I am finding the complexity (and extra charges) with the smart tariffs perplexing. Also, I cannot simply use Bonkers.ie because it does not factor in FIT.

I realise that I can read the FIT places like here (https://www.purevolt.ie/domestic-solar/feed-in-tariffs.php) and then look up the smart tariffs that each company offers but this is not straight forward.

Hence, just wondering which smart tariff, have solar users here gone for? and why? I am a low electricity and gas user.

Thanks.

For anyone in a rural location, here is my current spreadsheet for comparing most but not all rural smart rates using my usage data from April to December 2023. Before then I wasn't gathering individual day, night and peak usage.

The data is based on staying with SSE or going to another supplier at a "preferential" rate so you might get a better deal if moving to SSE.

Although I include an "EV rate" I do not factor it into my calculations as I only have a 5KW battery, which makes up a small part of my grid import.

The pay-off for me changing from SSE to Energia is small enough to not warrant the bother.

Newcomer, Yuno, is not attractive for rural households because of standing charge and woeful FIT payment.

NB - All tariffs assume smart metering.

I was using the smart meter tariffs, which have a cheaper standing charge.

257.38 compared to smart 237.22

You are correct. The urban/rural toggle switch didn't toggle after clicking it.

Once you go to a smart tariff, you can never go back to a 24hr one afaik - people have said that repeatedly here.

As Graeme says, check the usage. The smart meter shows night, day, peak usage on the meter. Welcome to Working in Channels | Slack (youtube.com)

Even if you don’t have an EV, it could be worth it if you can load shift a fair % to that night rate. Immersion, dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer… Charge house battery of course if you have one.

Will use about 5-7kWh ish if all 3 of these ran (ok, depends on the temp and setting selected so on) - dishwasher, washing machine, tumble dryer. I don’t use the immersion so don’t know the kWh it needs. Depends on size of tank and amount of water you use of course.

No rush deciding as you can monitor the stats on the smart meter anyway. Move stuff to night time and then see if the stats change much and it's then cost effective. You'll need to do some excel probably to cross check it

Yes it is. I had to wait 30 days after the meter swap, got the welcome email and called to make the tariff change.

Imho its only bad if you cant find a rate that is cheaper that your standard tariff.... And you dont export anything to the grid. Non smart dont get fit anymore.

There was a fear that smart tariffs would be used to gouge us... High peak rates at dinner times when people have to use electricity.

If you can some small habit changes shifting loads to cheaper times then they can be great. If you cant shift maybe The standard non smart is better.

To clarify, a 24-hour non smart-meter doesn't get FIT anymore. But once you've a smart meter you get FIT (with the usual NC6 submitted to ESB of course). As in you don't need to be on a smart tariff on the smart meter. You can be on a 24hour tariff on the smart meter and get FIT. That was a little confusing for me at the start