Do affordable EVs exist in Ireland

Must have been a taxi.

Masses is not a nice description of ordinary hard working people.

Do 2020 Konas have adaptive cruise control & Lane keep assist? Bsd? Etc?

I have an ioniq premium se with all with all the bells & whistles & I would be slow to change to a car without adaptive cruise control

Part of the issue is scarcity of supply.

My car would probably cost 4 k more to buy today in a dealers.

Vs what I paid for it 13 months ago.

Yet its 13 months *older* with more KMs on the clock.

A big litmus test of this is how MG4 pricing plays out in Ireland.

A poster on another thread has had it implied to them that MG4 could be 37 k here.

So is the problem EVs or is it Irish Govt/dealers/importers refusing to offer good value.....

Just a thought.

What Irish EV market probably needs is someone whose actually passionate about EVs and keen to offer best value for money.

Its not just the end price but also having dedicated EV knowledge and developing the skills to deliver back up and support to the customer.

Its about someone been able to anticipate the market and looking to deliver cheap EVs to buy outright when market isn't great (oversupply).

But offer good lease deals if residuals look good.

The current dealer model hampers EVs for a number of reasons...

1) you pay dear for EVs from someone with as much interest in EVs as they do a breakfast cereal box.

2) there is still a yard full of ICE cars that need selling. Why tell a customer whose on the fence about EVs that an EV thats going to take 6 weeks to come (cancelled order) is THE ANSWER and much better then a Passat diesel.

When you've got a Passat diesel in the yard they can drive away TODAY.

Its reminds me of the housing crisis - too many people in the supply chain are benefiting from prices being high and supply too low.

I'm not sure thats true.

I was surprised in London during the summer just how many high end EVs there were, Porsches everywhere and cheaper EVs Leafs, Zoe, while around were nothing like as common, even beside ULEZ. Then I realized most people don't have their own driveways in London (except the wealthy). So public charging is under great demand. So lots of newish small petrol cars were far more popular than I expected. Because of the tax regime and the charging infrastructure.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-9330031/Electric-car-North-South-divide-revealed-ownership-EVs-rises-53.html

@[Deleted User] - there are much cheaper Zoes out there, but be careful as the older cars were all sold with battery lease, which is very expensive and you will have to pay it forever. Some owners bought out this lease, but you will want to see clear proof that the battery is owned.

With your super low mileage and if you never need to drive more than about 60km, you could also consider a Renault Fluence Z.E. these are also fully electric, very comfortable, but they can't fast charge. These also came with battery lease originally, so try and find one with battery owned.

There's also significant savings on motor tax, insurance, maintenance and tolls. M50 off peak is 75% discount for an EV. And EVs have very low depreciation. And of course there's the environmental impact. There's more to an EV than just fuel savings!

6,000km in a Micra doing 6.4L (1,184 entries on Spritmonitor) at €2/L would be €768. That's a fairly low cost in terms of petrol and probably doesn't warrant switching to another car.

With such low mileage servicing costs will be low as well. Though you can be lucky/unlucky with that.

You need to start adding up all costs. Not just fuel.

Ha yeah was just doing some man maths in my head I normally get them right.

I'm a recent EV convert but I don't think it suits Louze here to change.

But i wanted to change anyway. The only financial sense it made for me is the chance there will continue to be supply issues which will keep residuals high, which may or may not happen, who knows.

I think low mileage like yours in a modest petrol like micra will take a while to make sense tbh.