Dublin - Metrolink (Swords to Charlemont only)

Which will be more than offset when it's in operational phase, so what is your point? And before you say electric bus's the construction of said bus's and the batteries that come with them and also fleet renewal would generate more emissions over a 40 year period easily

It's one of many reasons

They could tell them the EU want a metro in every EU capital

same gobshoites head to London and New York and wax lyrical about underground transport systems...

Interesting. So a sort of advisory quango. Not your usual external consultants.

This is looking like a dead duck now, last month it was 10 billion odd and this month its 23 billion. Someone is working hard to scuttle the project, I dont even think it would have gotten accepted at 10 billion anyway. But 23bn is just off the charts, cities have hosted the Olympics AND built the infrastructure like metro lines to go with it for less than that.

Its insane stuff and you wouldnt know what to believe at this stage. All I know is pre pandemic it was at 3bn with perhaps 4bn being realistic due to the construction inflation that happened in the Childrens Hospital. But this latest figure of 23 billion being thrown about is barmy, its gotten to the point that you'd now be getting better value out of building a nuclear power plant than this 19 kilometre metro which I never thought Id say.

It doesnt help either than this firm Jaspers already do work for the European Investment Bank in advising on the spending of EU structural funds. This now gives politicians opposed to the project a perfect hook to hang their hat on.

"Both reports also expressed concern that the metro system will duplicate existing bus and Luas services along parts of the route, particularly the city centre and Ballymun, which could undermine the viability of other public transport services."

Wow. The upside-down logic here is astounding. Developed countries don't behave like this.

Absolutely bizarre statement. Completely normal for metros to replace bus and tram routes.

If this gets scrapped again, something has to change, there is something very rotten at the core of how we cannot deliver large infrastructure projects. Waste multi millions on consultants and plans but never a shovel in the ground.

I know officially its still going ahead but its wrong that senior politicians and civil servants are allowed sow the seeds of doubt off the record and hide behind reporters 'sources'. I hope I'm wrong but we've been here before and the soundings aren't good. I've always said that part of the planning team, there should be a much stronger pro metro pr campaign to put the negativity too bed quickly.

Get planning for it. Once the recession hits, prices can drop and they can proceed. IF the tenders received shortly are madness...

They have zero clue on the cost and 23,000,000,000 is as credible as 100,000,000,000. Even in this banana republic... Many of us here have and continue to pay large amounts of tax. In other countries, this gets you proper health, transport and child care services. They have large military expenditures. I think it's fair to ask, where is the money going in this kip ? Where is fifty percent over the pittance of 36000 euro going?

There is a huge difference, one option is highly dependable and segregated and very frequent. The other is a bus for ten km on single lane roads for the most part, with traffic light obsessed planners having lights every 50m. Ended up getting a taxi for E30, happy days !

The dublincoach service from dundrum to airport via redcow was brilliant.typical it's gone too. Anything else is far too much messing about, before you even get to the airport...

He's also a TD in an area that would directly benefit hugely from metrolink. I used to live in his constituency and exchanged some emails about public transport with him and found him on top of things. I think he "gets it" more than many to be honest.

I'm not sure too many people in D15 drive Land Rovers to be honest. Only a small part of his constituency is what one would consider affluent. There aren't enough votes there to keep him in the Dáil.

I really hope if it is built they won't try to continue this 'metrolink' brand at operational phase, please just leave it at 'metro'

Blue is the obvious next line colour, considering it will be in a system with Luas. Yellow for Lucan Luas if that goes ahead before the world burns.

Think the sun will have turned into a red giant before that gets built

We'll find out I suppose but getting it right on a map is essential. A proper Dublin rail map has yet to be produced which doesn't inspire confidence. Visitors need to see how they're going to get around at a glance.