Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

And again, zero evidence that this was due to the vaccine.

You're clearly just plucking these things off twitter and doing nothing to verify or check them.

Also as predicted because you guys have yet again been cornered about the effectiveness you're trying to shift back to your failed claims about safety issues.

And as always, the antivaxxers pretending to be "neutral" say nothing.

Ah yeah but how about the actual HIQA policy. You know, the one the health service follows? Anyway as I said above no mandatory covid vaccination exists and no staff are redeployed for being unvaxxed. You do realise there are mandatory vaccinations already for those working in clinical areas that have been in force for some time, many years before covid?

Rambling and poor attempts at trolling.

You did get it from twitter. That's where all of these propaganda comes from. You're spouting the same stuff the other conspiracy theorists are.

If you didn't get it from twitter, where did you get it? A conspiracy blog?

Something that I cant understand is if the vaccines worked, then why did every single person I know still get covid after they'd been vaccinated and boosted? A vaccine prevents a person from getting infected with a certain virus, that was my understanding of this anyway, yet when this is brought up its met with the argument that if that person hadnt been vaccinated they would've gotten it worse. Which is to place the argument into the realm of the unknown, and this is no accident. To me it seems obvious that the vaccines do not work yet I saw an ad in the paper the other day encouraging people to get booster jabs????? This is madness. At what point will the government or the media actually come out and admit that none of this has worked? Be honest, hold their hands up and say they made a mistake.

So hometruths, do you agree with his claim that the vaccines aren't actually vaccines?

The vaccine triggers an immune response.

A vaccine doesn't necessarily stop you getting infected. You can get infected with the flu virus, or TB, even if you've been vaccinated. It's about triggering an immune response so that you rid yourself of the virus quickly before it can trigger more severe symptoms. Depending on the virus that may lock out infections, or symptoms, or severe infections.

If you had the flu last year you can get the flu again this year, because the flu virus mutates quickly.

But if you were infected with measles last year you won't be infected with measles again this year.

Did you ever think about why that is the case?

And the vaccines against them are like that too.

Your immune system is based on quick response antibodies and longer lasting 'memory cells'. The covid vaccines trigger both, but the antibodies fade. Your can get infected in the upper respiratory tract before your antibodies can get there; or if you have no more antibodies, before the memory cells can produce them. It's like repelling an invasion bridgehead. They stop it getting to the core systems because when the immune system cavalry arrives, they know how to kill the invaders.

It's not the realm of the unknown. The stats are there for severe covid cases for vaccinated versus unvaccinated, ICU admissions, and it's undeniable that the vaccines have worked to trigger the immune response and protect the vaccinated person.

Was Omicron around in 2021?

Were we supposed to let people keep dying in the hope that something like Omicron might come around at some unknown future point in time?

I don't think you understand what 'irrelevent' means.