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The Pushback against Leftism

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  • 23-06-2022 10:34am
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    Fandymo
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    With the furore about Trans and the discussions in the Dail about inward migration. Could the tide finally be turning??

    Are the people on the street finally being given a voice from some politicians who realise that this nonsense has to end.

    In my opinion, it’s high time that Irish politicians realised that they work for the Irish people, not for NGOs, not for the EU, but for us. We cannot be the saviours of the world, it’s time for a grown up debate on the issues currently facing Ireland and the ones coming down the line.

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    Mad_maxx
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    Won't see any real change here until some sort of vaguely conservative media outlet with a significant footprint emerges

    Irish people won't find themselves on the wrong side of respectability ,covid proved that recently



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    #3
    I see sheep
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058251407/the-pushback-against-leftism

    What do Trans issues have to do with NGOs an the EU?



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    ArmaniJeanss
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058251407/the-pushback-against-leftism

    You seem to be putting yourself forward as a fair/average representation of what the voters want, and therefore able to point out what the politicians should be doing.

    Whereas in actuality from your posts here, your political positions are actually very niche and extreme.

    So the answer to your questions is generally No.



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    One eyed Jack
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    The Left, are a tiny minority in Ireland with feckall in the way of political power. There’s no pushback against them, because they aren’t a threat in the first place. 20-odd years of so-called “Conservative” Government parties are who you can blame for the current shìt-show, cos the Left sure as hell weren’t at the steering wheel.



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    Fandymo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238184#Comment_119238184

    Every major party in Ireland is open borders, internationalism, hug a thug, social welfare for everyone leftists. They may have some minor traditionally “right wing” policies, but they are left wing in everything else.



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    ohnonotgmail
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238194#Comment_119238194

    Yeah those well known leftists Fine Gael and Fianna Fail.



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    pleasant Co.
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238201#Comment_119238201

    Fcuking hippies and crusties the lot of them as we all know.



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    #9
    Fandymo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238201#Comment_119238201

    They may have formerly been right, but they have shifted. Helen Keller could see that.

    Open borders isn’t a right wing. Benefits for everyone isn’t right wing. Amnesties for illegals isn’t right wing. Revolving door criminal justice systems aren’t. Non-deportation of illegal criminals isn’t right wing.

    Take the blinkers off.



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    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238184#Comment_119238184

    That's because it would have been far worse if the far-left had its way.

    The pushback has begun, of that I'm sure. It's been a long time coming.



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    Xterminator
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238194#Comment_119238194

    Are you kidding?

    why has the government of Ireland built no houses for 30 years? Because of their 'free market' addiction, capitalism before societal needs!

    How many years ago was free education actually free? And what % of kids who go to college come from non fee paying schools? PS the answer is out there.

    We have a courts system that criminalizes (poor) people for personal use of drugs while turning a blind eye to white collar crime usually well education wealthy individuals. Funny that!

    And you think that's 'left'



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    [Deleted User]
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    Whuch ever idology emerges to see through a living wage for all and tackle wealth inequality,whatever that will be in 21 months time with inflation,will likely emerge as the dominent idology for next 20 years here


    Whether thats right or left,god knows



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    One eyed Jack
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238194#Comment_119238194


    Ah right, it’s your own definition of Leftism you mean - “anything which I find objectionable”. Every major party in Ireland is still very much right wing, and trying desperately to ape leftist politics to stay popular with the people. We’ll have another giveaway budget soon, and that still won’t save them. The people are sick of their antics. It doesn’t matter that referenda on marriage equality and the repeal of the 8th amendment passed on their watch, people are starving, and Government are wondering why can’t they eat cake.



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    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058251407/the-pushback-against-leftism

    This sounds like the tired old silent majority narrative.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    ohnonotgmail
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238264#Comment_119238264

    Its just common sense really.



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    o1s1n
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238194#Comment_119238194

    A huge part of our socio-economic wealth is based on international trade and business. We might be an island as a land mass, but in every other way we are not.

    You can see the negative impact Brexit and 'pulling up the ladder behind' kind of thinking that the UK has gotten themselves into. We'd be absolute morons to go down a similar route of isolating ourselves from the international community.



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    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238274#Comment_119238274

    Based on what, exactly? The OP reads like a tedious conspiracy theory. Even the EU and unnamed NGOs get a mention.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238276#Comment_119238276

    Nobody is arguing that we should isolate from the international community, like some form of North Korea. That's just a straw man argument.

    And it depends on your outlook. For some, including myself, what the UK has done is reach out to the world rather than remain isolated within the confines of the EU (with the outdated customs union model that belongs to the past).



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    Fandymo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238276#Comment_119238276

    Yes, let’s keep on the road to multicultural hell hole that has worked so well for our EU brethren like Sweden, Parts of France etc. We’ve had our beheadings so I suppose we are now truly European.

    Let’s tell kids they can be a tractor, but only if they REALLY believe. Lets let the girls of Ireland know that, yes you are a fast runner, but Michael is Michelle now, so he get to race instead of you.



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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238264#Comment_119238264

    The far-left is pushing the trans- issue. They speak as if we're all on board with what they're doing.

    Polls show that 80%, consistently, disapprove of trans women entering female's competitions. Yes, that's a silent majority compared to the loud minority that's trying to speak on our behalf.

    The same principle applies to every other issue, especially Woke-related issues, that the far-left is trying to pursue.

    It's absolute nonsense, and people are getting sick to the back teeth of being told what to do, what to say - lest they be a raging racist, homophobe, Islamophobe, transphobe, and every other form of -ism and -phobia not yet listed.

    And to the poster who complained about housing supply. The idea that building houses is a left-wing principle is absurd.



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    #21
    Fandymo
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238280#Comment_119238280

    Unnamed, but not unpaid. €5.5 BILLION a year paid to people, to lobby for their own interests. Mental.



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    o1s1n
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238283#Comment_119238283

    I was addressing the OP, who clearly is.



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    #23
    o1s1n
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238295#Comment_119238295

    Christ, talk about going from zero to ninety in one post.

    Are you able to have reasoned debate or are you just here for hyperbolic nonsense?



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    #24
    TomTomTim
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238201#Comment_119238201

    Lets have a look at what they support

    • Welfare state
    • Gender quotas
    • Mass immigration
    • Climate policies
    • Trans issues
    • Feminism
    • Millions in funding to explicitly left wing NGOs

    Are you really going to tell me that these aren't all popular topics with the modern left?

    “The man who lies to himself can be more easily offended than anyone else. You know it is sometimes very pleasant to take offense, isn't it? A man may know that nobody has insulted him, but that he has invented the insult for himself, has lied and exaggerated to make it picturesque, has caught at a word and made a mountain out of a molehill--he knows that himself, yet he will be the first to take offense, and will revel in his resentment till he feels great pleasure in it.”- ― Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov




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    #25
    Danzy
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    We are facing in to the end of 20 years of low interest rates and decades of cheap energy and resources.


    That's going to hit people hard. If there are less well to do families, it will hit the activist class.


    The left may be forced back to being a working class movement, kicking and screaming.


    That would not be a bad thing, nothing so increasingly aloof can last



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    ohnonotgmail
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238280#Comment_119238280

    I think I have my sarcasm turned up too high today. That's the second time someone has taken one of my sarcastic comments literally. Judging by the people who thanked it you're not the only one.



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    sameoldname
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238295#Comment_119238295

    If the two biggest political problems you have in life are foreigners and other people who wish to identify as agricultural machinery then you have ****-all real problems.



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    ancapailldorcha
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238328#Comment_119238328

    Ah. That makes sense. Maybe throw in an emoji?

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



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    #29
    Mad_maxx
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238184#Comment_119238184

    That's a cute little narrative the left have created about themselves, the plucky underdog

    The left dominate soft- cultural power in Ireland, they entirely set and police the boundaries of public discourse



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    Wanderer78
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058251407/the-pushback-against-leftism

    ...so the left are ultimately to blame for immigration and other social issues, when in fact most governments have been in fact more aligned with the right, as is the fact of irish governments, hows that then?

    yes, i do completely agree, its clearly obvious that financialisation of our economies, most notable in our property markets, has completely failed, of which both the left and right have been engaging in!



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    ohnonotgmail
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119238338#Comment_119238338

    that takes the fun out of it. Hilarious that some thought I was serious though. they clearly don't know me. Even my previous post on this thread made it clear what I thought of the OP



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