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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,200 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    I think Putin OD'd on squid game to come up with this war plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,200 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    Trump did nothing in Aleppo, what makes you think he'd do anything now bar his bluster. If Biden had attacked Russia in Ukraine I'd bet he'd say it was the worst idea ever. He's right in so far as something needs to be done but merely because he's on the right side of the contrarian view for once.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,017 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I have to admit I am not up to speed on the attrocities and crimes commited by the Azov's, can someone please fill me in on how many children they are supposed to have killed, how many women, pensioners, dogs, cats, hospitals attacked, protesters shot, appartment buildings blown up, shopping centres flattened?

    I feel a sense of chagrin that I don't know these basic things, yet probably should, so I'm all ears.

    Post edited by cnocbui on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,017 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    "A sabotage group was neutralized in Transcarpathia"

    Saboteur kit.jpg

    I not saboteur, I just been to mall to buy presents for children next Christmas.

    https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/21-march-a-sabotage-group-was-neutralized-in-transcarpathia



  • Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The world was a safe place when trump was in power, try saying that idiotic statement to people of Syria and see how you get on.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭combat14


    if they are out of parts for beloved russian tanks they must be out of parts for a whole host of other pieces of vital equipment too.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Niccolò Machiavelli :

    "To ally with great powers to defeat your neighbour is a strategic trap; if you win, you become the slave of the greater power; if the allied power is defeated, you remain alone and defenceless against the angry neighbour, and you are destroyed." - Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭Field east


    Just a thought. Is the Russian embassy in dublin and all its staff the same as mainland Russia from a sanctions point of view. ? If that is the case should , for example, stop Pepsi, Mc Donald’s food , etc from being delivered to the embassy? Should services from Irish firms eg maintenance , building, Dyno rod services be withdrawn. ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    So I wonder, if any brainwashed Russian posted here their views, would you fight it or let this propaganda poison others, when left unchallenged?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Navalny just got 13 years hard labour in a maximum security penal colony. I suspect he's not long for this world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    I worked with a Russian guy in the tech industry, he had been here for a long time, since he was a teenager. He was a big Putin supporter and loved all those memes of Putin riding a bear bare chested etc. I always found it very strange, but I assumed it was because he was rejected for Irish citizenship (he would have been eligible but he committed a serious crime and had a criminal record).



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,388 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    The Azoz are a boogyman. On the one side Ukraine says nope we have no fascist problem(or it's absolutely tiny), yet the Azoz are a regular feature of vids of their information war. On the other Russian side fascists and the Azoz are everywhere and are a regular feature in their information war(while they gloss over their fascists named after Hitler's fave composer...). Cheerleaders for both reference them in very different ways. The truth is likely to be found somewhere in the middle and in retrospect after all this has calmed down.

    On the far right problem in that part of the world and outside the general area of Western Europe? IMHO there's a fair bit of cultural difference and perception going on. Here's a map of LGBT rights and attitudes across Europe:

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    Here's one on attitudes to dark skin:

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    Notice anything? In general the further right you go on the map of Europe, the further Right and conservative and nationalist things tend to get. "Oh but [insert EU nation here] has more neo nazi parties than Ukraine!!". The part IMHO people are missing is that the electorate in many nations in Eastern Europe, expect as a given their mainstream parties to be a lot more conservative and nationalist than electorates in Western Europe do. They simply have fewer obvious hard Right parties, because their mainstream parties are a lot more conservative and nationalist than in most of Western Europe, as are the electorate. Which actually would be the case for much if not most of the rest of the world.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,457 ✭✭✭✭gandalf




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,388 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    To be fair she became a French citizen, married a French guy and did most of her science in France*, so an understandable assumption. She was fiercely proud of Poland and being Polish. Her kids spoke Polish and French and she named the first radioactive element she discovered Polonium.



    *the very first wristwatch with a radium luminous dial was French, because Marie knew the family who owned the company.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭ronivek


    It was something of a miracle he survived his poisoning in the first place I suppose; they were always going to finish the job somehow. Such a scummy country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,560 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Interesting article, the longer the war goes on and the continued losses that the Russians are sustaining the more likely we will see internal strife within the Russian Federation itself. Many of the Republic states within the Russian Federation are governed by corrupt "strongmen" who use intimidation and violence to maintain their grip on power, backed by Putin of course.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,388 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd challenge it, while keeping in mind that one man's poison is another man's bread and few minds would be changed. Minds adaptable to change are rare enough. You, me, everyone posting here are the product of our cultures and our upbringing and experiences as are the positions and truths we hold dear and are sure to defend. If this site was around in Ireland 1952 and not 2022 the attitudes and truths expressed and defended would be quite different. Significantly more nationalist, conservative, sexist, racist, religious and right wing. How easy would it be to change their minds?

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭ronivek


    Kinda begs the question why it hasn't been seized if there's that much evidence its his or at least very likely to be used by Russian government officials and/or cronies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    It's like, omg, they are Nazis and fascists and they are led by a Zionist Jew like and they all worked in manual labour.


    They are, like, all the worst and every one progressive should fight back against them.


    Ultimately the main problem with them is that they remain a key thorn in the Russian side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    There's no such thing as an "EU Passport", though. Each individual EU country issues their own passports. And it's not just a document, it's citizenship. So we'd have to have specific EU countries that are willing to give citizenship, and all the rights and privileges that brings, to tens of thousands of Russian soldiers. It sounds to me like something that would need to be very carefully thought though - the financial cost isn't the only potential down side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Ukrainian presidential adviser Oleksiy Arestovych said in a televised interview that one of Russian’s main priorities is to take control of the capital Kyiv, but trying to do so is “suicide”. He also said active hostilities between Ukraine and Russia could end within 2-3 weeks.

    Reported this morning. It may be an optimistic timescale but Kyiv now looks out of the question for Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    A penal colony? Wtf Russia has gone back to the 18th century. Putin makes Brezhnev and Gorbachev look like the Dalai Lama. He is heading in a direction even beyond Stalin at this stage imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Considering the absolute four course meal Russia is making out of regional cities that are just over the border from areas they controlled anyway, I can see how Kyiv might be a stretch.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭HerrKuehn


    It would be a very bad idea if it was open to the general soldier. Might be a good idea if open to commissioned officers though, or pilots especially if they defect with their plane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    The sanctions aren't that wide-ranging. Aside from the ones on specific people, most of them are targeted at specific banks and institutional financial transactions. There's also bans on exporting military and dual-use goods and services, and services and equipment used in oil and gas exploration. A lot of the sanctions are also more about restrictions on imports from Russia.

    There is a ban on the export of "luxury goods" to Russia, but not on regular goods an food or relatively mundane services. Many western companies have unilaterally stopped dealing with Russia, but there's not a total ban on exporting to Russia. It's possible that some companies could make the decision not to provide service to the Russian embassy, but there's currently no legal requirement for most of them to do so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Previous Communist leaders would have shot Navalny and his family,friends and close supporters would have gone to the penal camp.


    That's not to say Putin is nice, it's just that he will have to become a lot more murderous and brutal to meet the level that was the norm in Communist society.


    To top it he would certainly have to use chemical weapons and Mass starvation as standard tactics, we would have to see 8 figure dead nin Ukraine, it is is 3rd time the Russians have brutalized the Ukraine and it's by some distance in 3rd place still.


    We shouldn't under report the absolute psychotic brutality that was the Soviet Union from Day one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    The historical parallels are more with the Nazis than with Stalinism, although there are some overlaps.

    Which is obviously ironic in the extreme, given the way RuSSia flings the term 'Nazi' about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,100 ✭✭✭✭briany


    On the Just Eat app, you can tap the little info icon beside a restaurant to see what times it delivers. It would be a nice Easter egg if you typed in the address of the Russian embassy and the info was like,

    Monday.. No delivery. F*ck Putin

    Tuesday.. No delivery. F*ck Putin

    Wednesday.. No delivery. F*ck Putin

    Etc.



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