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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    I've talked to a Russian living in the UK. Sadly, totally supportive of Putin. She even has family in Ukraine. She went through a litany of anti-western grievances that didn't even have to do with Ukraine. Even Napoleonic wars.....

    Basically Russia has historically been a victim of the west and the free market capitalism created gangsters in their country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,919 ✭✭✭GM228


    They have been suffering sabotage for quite some time (several weeks now) aimed at disrupting movement of military trains.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Is there currently a way to take out hyper sonic cruise missiles? I know the US is working on it, obviously.

    Do you think that if laser interception of missiles is achieved, that laser could effectively deal with hypersonic given that laser is the speed of light.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Tbh, in the information and social media era of 2022, anyone who doesn't believe what's happening is at best a dense brainwashed imbecile or at worst a scummy terrorism supporter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,727 ✭✭✭storker


    Don't mind if I do! 😁


    I really must get to an optician - I have no idea what that little red emoji is. It looks like a tomato that someone started to cut and didn't bother to go all the way through...



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  • People with such views in the face of these widely documented atrocities should be swiftly deported back to that shithole that is Russia.

    These supportive barbarians have no place in the West.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,881 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Heard something mentioned online today- apparently 97% of the Belarusian public oppose becoming involved in this invasion and conscription there is a toxic word- mothers with young sons being sent to slaughter is very emotive, Lukaschencko doesn’t want to push it too hard as he knows the public might lynch him despite the apparent stranglehold he may have. As we saw in the past in Romania, the army switched sides and ceacescu got his just desserts with a shower of bullets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭liamtech


    So aprox 10,000 KIA in 3 1/2 weeks - vs 14,500 aprox in 9 years in Afghanistan

    And of course the new Ukraine Figures are 'official' so - god knows how many more - plus DPR LPR forces

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Unfortunately gold is quite popular in India and China (although no-where near $140bn, they could be markets for Russian gold over an extended period). I'm assuming it's stockpiled in Russia, but if for example some of it is held somewhere like Switzerland that could be locked by sanctions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Everything she looks at is Russian. She watches Russian news (or did until RT got bumped off) she uses Russian search engines, Russian email, Russian chat messengers. She has about 5 different Facebook accounts which got me suspicious that she works for a Russian troll farm 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,881 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    These people never cease to amaze me- hate the west but flock to live here, turn their backs in truth on the countries they supposedly “love”. We are taken for absolute mugs over here. Firmly of the opinion you must show a demonstrable loyalty to your chosen adopted country- else here’s the door and thank you. We really are victims of our moral standards and freedoms sometimes

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  • Wouldn't be surprised if Putin sent his lackey Lukashenko to the frontline knowing he would likely face a demise and then makes a quick play at the power vaccum in Belarus.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    I was hoping someone could help me. Somebody posted a video on this thread from an American in Kyiv a few days into the invasion "explaining" the russian tactics....

    Basically he said russias strategy was to encircle cities and not destroy much......a very pro russian spin on things

    Id be interested to see how is bullshìtting his way out of what is happening now....levelling mariupol, blowing up shops and theatres etc...

    Has anyone a link?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    There have been a number of people interviewed on various TV stations who have relatives in Russia (some of them Ukrainian) who have similar views. The propaganda machine in Russia is, unfortunately, quite effective, particularly with older generations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,881 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I’d be having a word with the Authorities, no question. The U.K. take espionage seriously. Be no harm to see her feathers ruffled at the very least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,881 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Well he is actively known to dislike him but even lukashencko isn’t that thick I’d imagine



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    She said about living here in the UK that her "heart was in Crimea". I did think about telling her to f*ck off back there then, but she's actually a nice person to talk to. And this is the difficulty in that it just doesn't register with her about what Russia is doing. She's also a Stalin fan as was her mother. If you can somehow justify mass starvation and gulags, then you can justify the Ukraine war too.

    She did say at the end that it was nice talking to me even if we didn't agree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Meanwhile back in the real world .....


    Going by the supposed leaked death figures of Russian troops in Ukraine combined with the injuries list Russia has lost about 15% of it's 200,000 invasion force in under a month and yet they are literally only fighting in a few places in Ukraine,how high would the casualties be if they were fighting across the whole of Ukraine,

    50% + casualties in a month ?

    Not including vehicles , weapons systems and aircraft



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Bayonet


    Optimistic article. Kind of interesting. Makes the argument that Ukraine is winning.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,402 ✭✭✭corkie


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Not necessarily, Russian friend of mine I was speaking to over the weekend, and has always been skeptical of anything from Govt controlled media ( which is the only medial available now) and believes them even less, and is pretty well aware of what's happening in Ukraine, yet cannot convince her Mother that what she is being fed by Govt media is all lies. Generational brain washing.



  • Posts: 7,946 [Deleted User]


    Not forgetting desertions are supposed to be rampant.

    I wonder if the EU said deserting Russians are welcome into the EU what would happen.

    They could be held in humane conditions until Russia could take them back, possibly post Putin... I know this could take time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Why do you have to always play the man and not the ball. What I think is irrelevant (and I support CAP by the way) and I agree that globalisation has resulted in wastelands in the West. What you consistently fail to acknowledge is the reasons behind those changes: it is cheaper to manufacture in China than the west which allows companies to price their products lower and thus sell more of them. Reshoring will result in the price of products rising, thus denying more people from having those goods.

    It can be argued that this would be far more sustainable from an environment, social and resources perspective, but ultimately you are asking people to have a lower standard of living. It's the same problem that green policies consistently run into. If people can't tolerate a carbon tax, they are hardly going to tolerate an oil shock are they?

    If you think people should have less stuff, then just say that. Saying we should suffer "economic pain" is just language used to hide the enormity and severity of the ask.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,377 ✭✭✭liamtech


    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    Have we heard anything yet from the likes of Mattie McGrath, Mark MyCherry and other Tds seeing as they were fighting against the dictatorships of Covid Vax certs and the like afew weeks ago? No doubt they'l do like that Jamie Bryson up north and make out this war is like an attack on Rural Ireland or somesuch guff!

    The political fall out from this will be interesting as people will be distancing themselves from Putin and Putin-esque policies. Escpecially in Ireland politicians will see the abuse Wallace+Daly are getting and will be thinking of the next election, and aswell the outpouring of support and solidarity the people are showing the refugees.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Lukashenko doesn't have the internal support like Vladimir Putin to launch them into a war that nobody wants. It's clear that Moscow's plan was always to have Belerus involved in it (at least as a back up plan).

    Lukashenko ain't stupid. He prizes his own leadership/self preservation above anyone elses. If he gets dethroned by the army then he has nothing but a jail cell. There will be nobody to fly him to Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,881 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Belarus is interesting. It’s not Uber loyal to Moscow as sometimes portrayed and there’s been a high level of dissent within the country that has of course been brutally crushed and the opposition crushed or exiled to the EU. Given the right set of circumstances it could be ripe for a revolution like Ukraine. Hence lukashencko’S “caution”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Thanks to the putin sponsored referendum he had it written into law he or his government were immune from prosecution for crimes committed while he or they were in office ,

    He would would use the excuse Putin made him do it and he was only protecting his people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,166 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That video seems to be showing a targeted assassination. It follows a dark SUV which seems to be being driven at very high speed to the point it even slides around a corner, it pulls up to the mall entrance, where presumably someone gets out and enters the mall then the overkill munitions streaks down and takes out the mall in order get the person/s from the SUV. It's like something from a game or movie.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,079 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Gonzalo lira....a quick google of him shows what sort of a prìck he is....

    Thanks for that help finding the link....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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