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Seems like a good deal on coal....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire



    Thanks Omega,I'm pretty sure that you are right, but in the past I bought a ton from a local supplier ( it was the 2nd Ton, with the 1st one being fine) But it turned out to be rubbish coal, and he sad that I was the only one complaining , and refused to do anything about it. A few months ago, I bought a Ton of Hayes Hi heat, and to be honest, its working fine heat wise, but a lot of it is a bit "pebble" like, so I mix it with a larger coal. But one bag of larger coal costs €22, so this of course makes the Hayes coal expensive. But anyway, the way things are going, lucky to have any coal available. And this is why I bought the CW Ovoids,,,I'm not even halfway through ton of Hayes from the Dandys, but I will not have much left I think by the time the winter is finished....i was still lighting fires end of may last year.



  • Registered Users Posts: 996 ✭✭✭gabbo is coming


    What's CW?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 996 ✭✭✭gabbo is coming


    Do they deliver to Dublin?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    They are on Facebook, as far as I know you need to arrange your own courier

    easy glow and dandy have couriers they use and you get a price at checkout for anywhere in Ireland

    The internet isn’t for everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    They can include delivery of 80 euros in the price. Even with delivery price is much cheaper than here. Shows you how much we are being ripped off. Prices going up soon so call them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭Redriddick


    I ordered a ton too. First time from CW will let all know what it's like. It was a toss up between oil and coal but the oil is mental at the minute.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    They ( CW) gave me the option, either use my own courier ( they even gave me the name of a local courier) or they would organize for me @ €80 / ton. So I went with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    80 seems pricey for a courier i paid 55 with easy glow to cork and dandy are 65

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭amber2


    Easyglow have increased delivery cost to €60 yesterday to cork, but maybe increase isn’t on all routes…. Still slightly cheaper than CW.

    Post edited by amber2 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Thats what I paid to Dandys too for my first Ton, so I thought it was standard. Will know better next time, for sure!!! Thanks again. NB: the way fuel / transport prices are going, looks like if I was to delay ordering, might not be much difference between the price of the coal, and the cost of the transport.......😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭The Student


    Would never buy from easyglow again. Bought small ovoids and they were rubbish. They fall apart into dust. Contacted them on three seperate occasions about the issue and they never once replied.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Easy glow gave me a free ton of coal when I complained and I couldn’t be happier with the service, each to their own I guess

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,011 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Gonna order a ton of ovoids off easyglow n will report back. I got a ton a year or so ago when a good few on here were complaining but I found them grand.

    I bought a ton of polish coal the year before of coal warehouse n it was pure dirt, I wouldn't deal with them again as they were fit to send that crap out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    There's no "rip off" in the south. You have 13.5% vat on coal, we have 5%.

    You have carbon tax of about €70 on a tonne of coal. We have none.


    Seems a tonne of decent smokeless coal is about €480 in the south. (I found a site called coop superstores with that price)

    If vat was 5% and there was no carbon tax, that 480 would be €370


    But it's swings and roundabouts. We're paying about the equivalent of €2.30 for diesel and €2.15 for petrol in the north at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭The Student


    Good for you. Ironically I had a number of neighbours who have asked me for recommendations and I directed them to coal warehouse.

    The fact that Easyglow ignored me was the issue. Every company can get a bad batch etc but the lack of customer service was the issue for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭dollylama


    I've went through a few different products from Hayes to see what works.

    Grade A anthracite: poor heat for anthracite and only available in 40kg bags. Wouldn't recommend.

    Burnglo anthracite: relatively easy lit, good heat and good burn time but an extreme amount of clinker left in the grate after burning. Yet strangely, I found if I throw 2 or 3 shovels of ovoids on top of the Burnglo just as it's burnt out, there's literally nothing left in the grate in the morning! Not sure the science here but it seems if the anthracite is covered, it burns out perfectly.

    Surelite ovoids: easy lit, good heat and good burn time. I'd nearly say these are the same ovoids Coal Warehouse are selling. Next to nothing left in the grate after burning.

    Glovoids: I think these used be called Supacite ovoids. Easy lit, great heat... higher than Surelite / CW but they don't burn quite as long. Literally nothing left in the grate after burning.

    Calco Magiglo: this is pet coke mixed down with some other fuel as I was tempted to try pet coke but worried about excessive burn temperatures. It's difficult to light, needs 30 to 40 minutes open damper but it burns out well and gives good heat... nothing excessive. I'm going to try pure Calco next time as, despite the hard lighting, the low price is hard to pass on... approx €6.50 per bag at tonne rates

    Columbian Hi-flame coal: easy lit, good high heat, burns quick like any other coal with very little left in the grate.


    The Dandys sell Hayes products but Hayes themselves will sell ex. Belfast if you're buying in quantity and will do mixed pallets. Will definitely be trying them again soon... good range of products and keen prices.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,734 ✭✭✭bigron2109


    I’ve bought from Easyglow for a few years. Just a bit of advice don’t buy the SMALL OVOIDS… I’ve always bought the large ones, and bought the small ones last year and they were rubbish for a large stove. They might be alright for a small stove but not great for the large stoves . Their large ovoids I’d have no problem with what so ever.


    When I got onto Pat in Easyglow they gave me a free tone so I can’t complain about their customer service .


    I had a couple of bags of the small ones left and used a bag last week and you can see the massive difference compared to the large ovoids. Doesn’t give off as much heat and burns a lot quicker .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    I think you have answered your own question there.

    Republic is a rip off on coal, this thread is not about petrol/diesel. Another part of boards for that discussion.

    That's why majority on here buy or are thinking of buying coal from the north.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    My example is coal. The difference is tax. No rip off by a retailer.

    Different countries apply taxes differently. Same as different countries spend taxes differently.

    Up here, god help you if you are unemployed. You get about £80 a week. Down south you get more than double that.

    It's swings and roundabouts.


    If you can take advantage, great. But don't say rip off. I'll be taking advantage of cheaper diesel in the south, but I'm not saying the north is a rip off even if it's 40c a litre more expensive now. That's tax difference for you.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Never said retailer was the ripoff.

    This is about coal prices, nothing else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭amber2


    Agreed bought the small ovoids few years back, they were terrible and like you just used up the last of the bags recently mixed them in with triple heat and they burned fine. Won’t be buying them again though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭lenscap


    The price of coal in Northern Ireland appears to be changing very quickly, week from week.

    I have attached a simple chart to compare prices both North and South. Please remember that no sooner than I post this but some of the prices will change, so it is only a snapshot. (The delivery was to my own address in the west of Ireland.)




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭Bif


    Who will you go with? What are the Homeland smokeless stove ovoids like?



  • Registered Users Posts: 40 TaSeThat


    A couple of sneaky things you can try with EasiGlow (I've bought off them for the last couple of years and they seem grand):

    1. Log into your account and go to buy coal....but leave it for a day or so. I did this on my last order and I got an email saying something along the lines "You left items in your cart"...."We can give you €4 off to finish your order"
    2. Also, I contacted EG to see if I can pay in sterling (I'm sure their conversion is not the best - I have Revolut". They said you can but you have to phone in your order.

    The above may save you a few sheckles but not sure if point 1 was a once-off for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    Looks like I'll be burning rubbish and furniture soon.

    RTE news : Bag of coal to increase by €7, says fuel supplier


    http://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0312/1286038-coal-price-rise/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Smokeless is like burning stones, hard to light and very little heat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    That's an astonishing increase.

    I hope everyone has their pallets stored securely. They'll be a target for thieves as well as oil.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Smokey coal for €8 49 kg bag? Where’s that for sale? Only saw it was 2014, oops.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Stock up quick!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    I see places advertising €8 a bag near me and people go in to be told that’s 20kg

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,363 ✭✭✭naughto




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    Well, I just bought a tonne from Easyglow for next Winter. Can see their prices going up very soon.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11 photovoodoo100


    Does anyone know if countryblend from CW is good in an open fire, mother in law is thinking about buying a ton she doesn't have a stove getting very worried about the comming price hikes here



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,363 ✭✭✭naughto


    fj2022 code for 5euro off with easyglow



  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭mollymac57


    With reports on RTÉ that coal is to go up by €7 a bag I’m not taking any chances and have bought a ton from Dairygold at 784 incl delivery. Stocked up with what I have in the shed and this ton coming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Jesus Christ that’s some ball of cash for a ton of coal, you know this is bargain alerts right ?

    i think a moderator should revoke your membership

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 42 topofthewind


    I used it the last 2 winters. A good fuel, comes on a covered (plastic hood) pallet in 20kg clean bags.

    It had good heat output. It lights easily enough. The ash content is average to low.

    Overall I’d recommend it. Handy to order online too.


    Another stove fuel I bought is “golden glow” eco glow from Mcloughlins, Buncrana, Co. Donegal. Local supplier ceased trading so I switched fuel. It was the best I have used. High heat and very low ash.

    I see they do deliveries now by the ton. I’d recommend it too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Shauna677


    It sounds like panic buying. Mad money to pay for a tonne of coal. Money be better spend if it was redirected towards retrofitting his house.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭swardy1


    Pricing has gone crazy. Just checked price from my last order of these back in Sept 2021 and a tonne of these ovoids was €344 (€388 including delivery).



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The very definition of panic buying.

    You'd have saved hundreds by just shopping around. Yer man probably couldn't believe his luck when someone paid it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭Cape Clear


    Hate to hear of people worrying about basics like heat particularly the older generation. I would suggest a mix of coal and good seasoned fire wood for an open fire. Plenty of genuine sellers out there but a few sharks also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭OmegaGene


    Few quid more and you’d get two pallets from easy glow or coal wharehouse

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 460 ✭✭2forjoy


    Increase is price gouging. I heard there is a plentiful supply of Columbia coal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,777 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Surely you mean a pallet 40x40kg bags 25x40kg bags in a tonne.



  • Registered Users Posts: 171 ✭✭mollymac57


    yea it’s 40x40 kg bags of Arigna Cosyglo smokeless. Works out at €19.60 per 40kg bag, delivered. (Or €9.80 per 20kg)

    Its not panic buying by me. If I see that a commodity is likely to increase in price I will buy in advance as I’m sure most BA people would. I have bought from NI for the past few years with mixed results. The quality of this product should be much higher and if not I will exercise my consumer rights with a local supplier. I have an oil boiler and with the price of kerosene rocketing I am holding off purchasing if/until prices stabilize. And in the meantime I will burn this coal I have purchased along with existing stocks to heat my home. It made sense to me to buy but others are free to exercise their own judgement. By waiting though the prices of all fuels are only likely to sky rocket (eg: petrol, diesel, kerosene, gas etc) at least in the short to mid term. I’m more than happy to know that I have a lot of my heating secured for next winter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Fair enough, but you posted a ton, i think most would have taken that as 1000 kg, not the 1600 kg that you bought, i buy a tonne a year, i have gas heating also but use it very little, the amount of fuel many buy on here seems big to me, i suppose a tonne a year seems alot to others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭macvin


    I have done a fair bit of reading on the oil/diesel price jumps.

    In the middle of it coal also was in many news articles.

    It has gone crazy in the last 10 days with some market prices at $400/t.

    That's before shipping, bagging, distribution costs, taxes and margins.


    Up until early February it was trading $130-$140 per ton, then jumped to $180.

    Then since 2nd march it went stratospheric to $400.


    It will drop back when the war ends - but that could be a while away yet.


    Basically, if you use coal, buy it immediately. Don't wait another day. It will be €600/ton from NI and €700 in the south when extra vat and carbon tax is added.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭podge3


    Worst coal I ever bought - and I got a few bad batches from the North over the past year or 2.

    Humongous amounts of ash and clinkers left in the grate. I couldn't burn more than a bucket of the stuff before the fire was smothered with the ash.

    It was replaced by a different batch of the same product and that was even worse. Got a refund eventually.



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