Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

29-01-2022 06:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118547122#Comment_118547122

What’s the point of even trying to argue a point if you’re just going to talk rubbish?

“adverts are pointless”

yes, definitely, they’re absolutely useless and that’s why companies spend a fortune advertising, just because. And this coming from the authority on what is or isn’t music. 🙄

29-01-2022 06:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551077#Comment_118551077

It wouldn't be RTE. It would be a new organisation. Why is this so hard for you to understand. Do you not remember all the pirate radio stations switching off on New Year's Eve then applying for licences. Some were successful, some were not. There is no need for continuity with RTE.

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/pirate-radio-closedown-30-years-ago-ended-buccaneering-chapter-1.3744560

I listened to the local pirate station as they signed off and the air went silent.

Again, I ask you, why is this so hard for you to understand?

elperello · 29-01-2022 07:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551143#Comment_118551143

Do you literally think that it is feasible to close down our Public Broadcasting Service and have the staff all made redundant?

What happens then, have them all queue around the block to be interviewed by who?

29-01-2022 07:12PM

Yes. you aren't cut out for management if you can't make hard decisions.

The public do not "owe" them a living. You seem to think the public should keep them in the standard of living to which they have become accustomed.

Loafing Oaf · 29-01-2022 07:23PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549731#Comment_118549731

Okay I took this to mean if the recruiters for the new broadcaster are competent and properly independent they will not rehire a single ex-RTE person.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118549933#Comment_118549933

But this implies you would accept some former RTE heads if their abilities are of the requisite level. I'm assuming this is your actual position.

elperello · 29-01-2022 07:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551200#Comment_118551200

You just fired all the management and paid them all big redundancy along with everyone else including the guy who cuts the grass.

There's nobody left to make hard decisions🙂.

29-01-2022 07:27PM

Any Hiring Manager who overlooks competent candidates for an open position should be dismissed. Any Hiring Manager who allows preferred candidates should be dismissed.

29-01-2022 07:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551250#Comment_118551250

You are obviously not familiar with labour law if you think making people redundant in Ireland need be expensive.

Are you also suggesting that the Footsoldiers in RTE are exclusively responsible the company's inability to deliver quality programming and that the Managers should be given a free pass and protection.

29-01-2022 07:31PM

The Gardai are better in the last number of years for not having hired internally for the top job.

29-01-2022 07:51PM

There's a piece in the SUN today about rte looking for a sponsor to come on/ board & carry the load€€ for ray Darcy radio show.....tyeyre looking for €210K a year.............i doubt there'll be many queing up

Gen.Zhukov · 29-01-2022 09:39PM

A true miracle took place in D.4 today.

Just a few short hours after the post here regarding Brendan O'Connor's (and others) show not having a sponsor, suddenly there's a two hour show this morning with the RTE lady shouting 'Allcare Pharmacy' every few minutes. She forgot to shout that in yesterdays promo and for the last few months. Allcare were the previous sponsors so there was that handy recording lying about for emergency use.

The RTE page where the show was looking for a sponsor (prices etc) yesterday, today returns a 404 error

God moves in a mysterious way.

A more cynical person than I might think that Allcare Pharm are getting a few freebies or massive discounts just for the optics while they wait for another ~~sucker~~ sponsor to appear - but I couldn't possibly comment on that.

RTE, I'll ask you a question here and I'll try to keep it simple and give you a pointer because you do come across as being quite thick :- You are having problems getting sponsors for 3 shows that have presenters on very high fees and they come from the same agent. Where do you think the problem might lie?

NIMAN · 29-01-2022 09:53PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551358#Comment_118551358

And yet when he was poached from TodayFM we were told he would pay for himself due to big sponsorship.

fritzelly · 29-01-2022 10:04PM

Potential sponsors probably read this...

Ray takes over at 3pm for 90 minutes of music, ground-breaking one-to-one interviews, regular advice slots, comedy and entertainment

...and thought what else are they lying about

skimpydoo · 29-01-2022 10:09PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551962#Comment_118551962

Ground-breaking one to one interviews? Who is taking the piss?

29-01-2022 11:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118551994#Comment_118551994

Aren't his 'listenership' numbers always heading South????

Got to admit one of my favourite interviews of all time was Pamela Anderson on Darcys ill-fated Sath night tv show......oh, that was pure comedy gold....you actually felt sorry for the guy

fritzelly · 29-01-2022 11:23PM

Yup, something like 150k turn off when his program starts (I manage about 2 mins of him) and like 15% drop in listeners since last year but "He's worth it" (not)

30-01-2022 09:33AM

Is Dee Forbes sole remit/ job hussling/ drumming up more €€€ to keep the gravy train on/ track?????

Sometimes I picture her coming out of the lift on dragons den......

Ok, so I want MORE money.......fot this investment you get,,,,

A biased media company that's top heavy with grossly overpaid talentless hangers-on.

Nepotism on a grand scale

Radio shows with way too many producers/ presenters.

Antiquated IT systems

A government that's beholden to us......afraid to upset the apple-cart.

RabbleRouser2k · 31-01-2022 12:54AM

This clip did the rounds on twitter... Alan Partridge would be ashamed to pull this kind of crud. But for Tubridy, it's another Friday fail.

It's cringetastic... and note they couldn't even get the tricolour, nor did they play the IRish national anthem. T'would upset the woke folk.

https://twitter.com/RTELateLateShow/status/1487179545740521477?s=20&t=G01A7KNnLe0VSj0WGKLaIQ

fritzelly · 31-01-2022 01:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118557596#Comment_118557596

LMAO - the comments are less than complimentary but Ryan thinks he was amazing and that's all that matters

garrettod · 31-01-2022 02:32PM

I see that Paddy Cosgrave has sent out a tweet, suggesting a possible boycott of the licence fee.

He's got a massive following on twitter, so things have just gotten a little bit more interesting!

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1487885287510487042?t=vmCbvM2z8dtTnai_zt2N7g&s=09

31-01-2022 03:25PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118560045#Comment_118560045

Oh wow he tweeted? I bet the government are drafting new legislation as we speak.

retalivity · 31-01-2022 03:39PM

I'm all for kicking RTE for their failure at everything, but if its putting me on the same side as that spanner, I would start to second-guess myself...

elperello · 31-01-2022 05:48PM

Altogether now -

"We want Paddy for our leader, Paddy is a man of class...."

Gone a bit quiet there 🙂

RoTelly · 31-01-2022 06:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561214#Comment_118561214

Paddy may not be the person... but RTÉ does need reform. There performance at the PAC and the Media Committee was the lowest point ever. I still don't know what they plan to do with the 65m they say they are missing. And were is An Post the people who are supposed to collect this fee, they don't even collect 1m licence fees each year.

elperello · 31-01-2022 06:22PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561352#Comment_118561352

I was only being a bit lighthearted.

I don't think for a minute that PC really cares anyway.

My own position is that like PC I support Public Service Broadcasting.

I think we need to decide what sort of PSB we want and then decide how to pay for it.

I favour direct exchequer funding which means no chasing after people, no evasion and no collection costs.

PSB TV free at point of use just like radio is today.

RandomViewer · 31-01-2022 06:31PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561379#Comment_118561379

Dublin is only 10% of the population yet most of the programming is Dublin Centric, either shift 90% of the programming outside of Dublin, sell the big site in Donnybrook and operate from an Industrial estate like VM123 or charge for RTE by area, areass which aren't getting local news or programming pay nothing and those who are constantly featured pay the most, Tallaght, Longford and Limerick may have issues with this

elperello · 31-01-2022 06:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561430#Comment_118561430

Dublin Region actually accounts for 28.5% of the population and of course it is our capital city.

https://www.cso.ie/en/csolatestnews/pressreleases/2021pressreleases/pressstatementpopulationandmigrationestimatesapril2021/#:~:text=Consequently%2C%20the%20population%20of%20Dublin,the%20year%20to%20April%202021.

Some of the infrastructure in Montrose is showing it's age anyway but a move would be vey expensive and there would be little point in it unless you were prepared to fund a complex with the best of modern technology. I'd be open to the idea but would like to see the figures.

More regional coverage would be worth considering including some more decentralisation.

Direct funding would remove the need for regional payment differentials.

RoTelly · 31-01-2022 06:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561379#Comment_118561379

Should RTÉ not try to provide PSBing, after all we currently pay for it through the license fee.

Exchequer funding has it problems. 1. Political influence and 2. During a downturn the easy at which a government may decided to cut funding to public service broadcasting.

elperello · 31-01-2022 07:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561552#Comment_118561552

They actually claim that they do but there is a long running debate here which suggests that everyone is not happy with the current output.

I'm suggesting that we put everything on the table and for once and for all decide what we want from a PSB.

You correctly identify some of the dangers inherent in direct funding but I think with the proper structures, and checks and balances put in place it could work.

RoTelly · 31-01-2022 07:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118561617#Comment_118561617

They claim. What do we think? Where is the debate?

But when do we get to put it on the table, when will that decision be made? And who makes that decision.

But we have direct funding to one PSBer and that funding was cut during a down turn.

And in the current situation has shown that An Post has never been taken to task about their collection of the fee.

Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore