Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Gen.Zhukov

Firstly, @Beasty has put an edit/caveat into the OP in this thread as ye can see - *poll not working - pl ignore* - good job👍️

Secondly, y'know this whole Public Service Broadcasting craic, I'd like to see more of the 'Public' bit brought into play. RTE's interpretation of PSB is 'The public will get what we give them'. I believe PSB should mean giving the public what they want.

An example of the above:- SOR's slot became available some time back and iirc, Sarah Mc did a 6 month stand-in slot and was excellent in the position. This was pretty much reflected around these parts and I presume elsewhere on SM, in fact, I'd say it was visible from space. I would also presume RTE knew this because I hear on the grapevine, they actually have some computers in there. So in a bid to fulfil their PSB remit, RTE must have thought 'Right, it looks like the public want Sarah Mc in the slot, what will we do?'...I know, says some cretin, lets put Claire Byrne in there instead...feck the public'. How is that public orientated? This shows an astounding level of arrogance or the 'Noel effect' as I like to call it.

How did all that pan out in the end. Well, the show has tanked, it is struggling to get a sponsor and it has basically become a vehicle to promote people from Claire's own agency. Also, I don't recall SOR needing expensive TV ads made to promote/rescue his show. More cash down the drain.

D'Arcy - another disaster! I've pretty much said it all about him on his thread but just to add - RTE have paid him about €3m since 2015. I'd confidently say that the public would get rid of him in an instant if asked - now that would be real PSB

The public need way more influence on how this omnishambles of an organisation operates, possibly on a daily/micro level basis because frankly, RTE are incapable of making good decisions themselves. They have become completely institutionalised and are not capable of change.

Because RTE behave like an unruly child, there needs to be an Independent Oversight Committee that reviews all decisions/actions/promotions/contracts/new shows/salaries/fees etc, before they are taken and they have the final say to Y or N it. It might work like this:- RTE proposes that their Washington correspondent returns to Ireland, resigns from RTE, signs up with a agent and is contracted back in to co-anchor the 6.1 news and is paid extortionate fees way in excess of what an employee would earn. The Independent Oversight Committee can then reply to this proposal with: "Yeah nice try lads, not going to happen"

There's a whole world of hate out there for RTE and imo, it's justified. This hate has been brought onto RTE by RTE and nobody else.

Lets sit down and talk about all that Moya.

Jaysus...I feel better now😀

All very valid/ good points......i totally agree Montrose is a basket case....... the whole " model" is inverted..........i doubt many would disagree that it's basically on an artificial 'life support' ..... in its present guise it can't have many years left......but nobody is going to 'face the dragon' ....too many vested interests

Brock Turnpike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118570905#Comment_118570905

I completely get why they want to do the Valentine's special i.e. it'll trend on social media because people will unable up avert their eyes or resist commenting on it.

However, I do think they are taking a huge risk - by ploughing a load of 20s/30s full of drink - that something will go badly wrong in terms of the behaviour/comments of some pissed audience member(s). This risk is multiplied given recent events in the news i.e. all the talk about how men should treat women with respect, etc. following the death in Tullamore.

HildaOgdenx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118557596#Comment_118557596

Saw a good parody of that, set to different music. 😂

I don't watch the show, so I slightly hoped it wasn't based on something that he really did.

But of course, like the toy show, it's all about the host... 🙄

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118573502#Comment_118573502

The only reason they do specials is because they have absolutely no idea how to produce an entertaining show each week. TLLS run out of ideas very quickly.

It's interesting to see how a thread about RTÉ has become a thread about TLLS, because much like TLLS RTÉ have no idea how to create something outside of TLLS.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118562098#Comment_118562098

Tubs would then have a driver

RabbleRouser2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118572747#Comment_118572747

Ray D'arcy (and Dustin) used The Den's cancellation/non-renewal to go after Dee Forbes. I'm no fan of Forbes, but it's the height of arrogance to condemn your employer whilst claiming a wage that's more than the American President gets in a year. She could easily kick D'arcy to the curb. She won't, but she could. Tells you all about the type of prat he is.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118570905#Comment_118570905

The 'Country' special gets more pathetic and depressing every year... especially because a good chunk of the acts die due to old age. Or they draft in failed pop stars who've 'gone country' because it's their last thread of relevancy.

I'd like to see more public access tv. Sure, you will get some loo lahs (or even mostly loo lahs) but it would surely fit into the public service requirement?

I enjoy going through the RTE archives, looking at stuff from the 50s-70s that I wasn't around to see at the time. Vox pops on the street are great.. even if people are only talking about whether they would eat horse meat or not. I was doing this one day and realized that a lot of the value of the content RTE produces is only evident maybe decades after it was made and it's relevance is as a record/archive of Ireland's social history. With that in mind, I say, more vox pops, more nationwide-type trips around Ireland talking to local people, and less of the light entertainment stuff.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118579551#Comment_118579551

IFAIK they are supposed to have something for public access under the broadcasting act 2009, but I could be wrong about that.

I would love to look at stuff from the 1950s only RTÉ TV just started at the end of 1961. Ireland was always 10 years behind.

You will be glad to hear that RTÉ produce very little light entertainment. Though in years to come we will be looking back at First Dates!

Do people notice that RTÉ produce relatively little programming?

RoTelly

@RabbleRouser2k "The 'Country' special gets more pathetic and depressing every year... especially because a good chunk of the acts die due to old age. Or they draft in failed pop stars who've 'gone country' because it's their last thread of relevancy."

That is TLLS gold... dead people ... I can see Tubs slavating just at the thought that he might have to talk about a dead person.

Ballycommon Mast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118572747#Comment_118572747

I have seen a few people mention the Clare Byrne & Sarah Mac thing, the reality is, RTE would have decided long before Sarah Mac's summer fill-in that Clare Byrne was getting the today show when SOR retired.

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118581287#Comment_118581287

"retired" I hear he's looking to get back in, surprised Newstalk weren't on the phone to him since golfgate!

RTÉ have an odd way off announcing thing just look the the 2 Johnnies coming to 2fm, but schedule changes launched the day before?

Ballycommon Mast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118581655#Comment_118581655

Yes RTE are an odd bunch, I posted about the two Johnnies getting 2fm drive at the start of the new year because it was in the Sunday world. Back in 2014 2fm drip fed their then new schedule over the course of about 2 weeks but every single bit of it had already been in the papers and posted here 3 months earlier

RabbleRouser2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118581730#Comment_118581730

Trying to appeal to the 'youth'... who are listening to playlists on spotify, or podcasts. Weirdly, didn't those guys have a podcast? Is their podcast failing now, so they're trying to get onto radio to seem 'legit'?

I don't listen to any Irish podcasts - their subject matter don't interest me. So hence my question.

vriesmays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118579551#Comment_118579551

In the 1950s Ireland had fighter jets and could defend its airspace. Not anymore.

ShamNNspace

Ah shur stick on the bourne supremacy and killnascully for the umpteenth time it'll kill a few hours of a Saturday night

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118588563#Comment_118588563

But you never mentioned the appetizer for such fine fare.......pat short on d'telly....... if that's not worth €160 I just don't know what Is!!!!

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118586308#Comment_118586308

DeHaviland Vampires, cool looking yokes

https://images.app.goo.gl/bZH9j97v2ndY984z5

RoTelly

So SOR to return to RTÉ!

retalivity

It would be peak-RTE if they end up putting money in for the continuation of Neighbours, while the begging bowl is out with the government

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118595894#Comment_118595894

Do they currently piggy back off C5, like VM do off ITV for their soaps?

Channel 5 are/were paying £5million a year for the rights but couldn't sell enough adverts to cover it.

retalivity

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118595941#Comment_118595941

I wouldn't think there would be an agreement between CH5 and RTE, would be between RTE and Fremantle media who make it. Apparently when the Aussie channel that showed it cancelled it a few years back, CH5 came to an agreement with them to effectively continue funding it. Now theyve pulled out, they are looking at RTE for help. From the Metro UK - https://metro.co.uk/2022/02/07/rte-in-talks-with-neighbours-over-shows-future-after-it-is-axed-16063093/

"Not all is hope is lost yet, however, as Network 10 – which produces Neighbours in Australia – is reportedly intent on continuing their association with the show, with a spokesperson telling TV Tonight that they are ‘hopeful’ Freemantle will find a new broadcast partner. Over in Ireland, RTÉ has aired Neighbours for over two decades, after the channel acquired it in 2000.

When asked about the future of the soap, a spokesperson for the Irish broadcaster told Metro.co.uk: ‘RTÉ is currently in talks with Fremantle in relation to Neighbours.’"

RandomViewer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118596465#Comment_118596465

So 5mil on top of whatever they're currently paying, yikes!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118594124#Comment_118594124

Yep.......... now to get big Phil back onto that European gravy train

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118596487#Comment_118596487

RTÉ pay around €2000 for an hour of TV from abroad. 5 EPS A WEEK 30 MINS 52 WEEKS OF THE YEAR ~€260,000 (give or take for inflation, been a few years since I heard €2000 for an hour of TV).

Channel 5 and the BBC were paying to broadcast in the UK, most likely the BBC realized it was cheaper to fund it, not sure if either the BBC or Channel 5 make a return on their investment.

RTÉ negotiations with Fremantle will be to look at what they replace neighbours with and if they will continue with the contract. RTÉ couldn't give €5m to neighbours when it is only willing to pay €3m to indo producers in Ireland for drama.

Was on the road this morning & had Claire Byrne on......next thing she introduces her next guest.......RACHEL ENGLISH. So Rachel has written a book & Claire is gushing/ gooing all about this book....oh its the greatest book ever......& I'm thinking 'Rachel English ..... I know that name from somewhere'.then the penny dropped......its her from " morning Ireland". So Claire's special guest was a presenter from earlier in the morning. Brilliant free advertising for her book ....you can't BUY advertising like that.......but seriously, what kind of codology was that interview???

Gen.Zhukov

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118597090#Comment_118597090

Still, on a more positive note Ken, if your pelvic floor is a bit rough around the edges, stay tuned.

Pelvic floor specialist on line 3

I'd like to sponsor the show.

Brilliant, that'll be three fifty for the year.

Great, I'll leave the €3.50 at the security hut.

It's actually €350 thousand sir.

Right, I'll leave it so.

RabbleRouser2k

Was watching RTE investigates tonight. A very sensitive, and serious topic, with Domestic Violence being highlighted. For the most part, well made, well researched, and some absolutely horrific cases highlighted. Whilst some parts of the doc sort of brushed aside elements, barely mentioning some things that I feel did a disservice.

But some parts of the doc threw me off. There were moments when subtitles were used, and they were full of misspellings. (The one that really caught my eye was 'Your' being used instead of 'You're').

And then it showed footage of the recent vigil for that teacher murdered in Offaly. This felt... unjustified, and somewhat insulting. Whilst the topic of the documentary was about domestic abuse in a relationship, that case, that spawned the vigils (and I'm trying not to discuss this too much, because the case is ongoing and I don't want to harm the case or say anything untoward) was not a domestic partner.

That 'bookending'... felt like it was doing a disservice to the brave individuals who were speaking out about the horrific crimes they suffered.

NIMAN

To be fair I think subtitling is not done by humans any more.

So you'd often get spelling mistakes on it.

Gen.Zhukov

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118598158#Comment_118598158

Good post. Sounds like a typical RTE production (especially wrongly conflating the vigil into it) I didn't watch it. I think I subconsciously avoided it because of the way they were pushing it so hard. It was the lead story on the 6.1 and fell to the 3rd story on the 9 news.

RTE won't like your post at all so expect all 38 of the Morning Ireland presenters to do a live broadcast from outside your place in the morning. Hopefully there's a 4* hotel close by that they can stay in tonight.