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No Time to Die **Spoilers from post #1449 onward**

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,955 ✭✭✭✭ fryup


    Looks like Idris Elba has got his foot in the door so to speak😐️



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    While I think he'd be a good choice, Elba seems to be a very busy man, with a lot of projects on the go at any one time. He mightn't want to be locked down into one franchise given the shoots + elongated press junkets demanded from Bond.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ EltonJohn69


    Has to be Riz Ahmed



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,955 ✭✭✭✭ fryup


    ^^^ nah, too skinny

    welsh actor Luke Evans would be a good choice if they want another white guy



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    He's a touch on the young side but will still maintain that my man crush for the moment, Dev Patel, would be a perfect Bond. Has played the lead a few times now with a good amount of charisma - and intensity when required such as with The Green Knight.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,922 ✭✭✭✭ MisterAnarchy




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,227 ✭✭✭✭ ArmaniJeanss


    Same age currently as Connery was for Dr No, so I don't see his youth as a problem. And it looks like filming won't start until 2024 so even less of an issue.

    Also I think with the time between films seemingly on the increase, it's probably an advantage to go with someone 30-35 years old. That way you can get 4/5 films without getting into silly territory.

    On Idris Elba (mentioned by 'fryup' above) I think the window for him as Bond is gone. Might be a good M or Bill Tanner though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭ FunLover18


    Elba is far old, there are actually other black British actors.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭ Chinese whospers


    Yeah, he'd be close to Craig's finish age before the release of the next movie.

    And too prolific/well known an actor also.

    It does them no harm to be seen considering him though.

    I’m in love with him and I feel fine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,490 ✭✭✭ billyhead


    Henry Cavill would make a good bond. He was good in the Man from Uncle.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,212 ✭✭✭✭ loyatemu


    yeah, I enjoyed that film and it seemed like a Bond audition for Cavill (I believe he did actually audition when DC got the role too).

    But I wonder if Cavill is too well known - Eon like casting cheap low-profile actors, not existing movie stars. That's why I think there's no way it will be Tom Hardy, or some of the other big names being tossed around.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,490 ✭✭✭ billyhead


    Okay another potential name. The main actor from Bridgerton.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,955 ✭✭✭✭ fryup


    not at all, sure Roger Moore was an old age pensioner with a bus pass when he was doing it



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭ FunLover18


    Regee-Jean Page I think he'd be very good if they went down the Roger Moore light-hearted route again. I've only seen him in Bridgerton so I can't say how he'd do if they stuck with the more serious tone. But tbh I wouldn't mind if Bond became a bit more fun again.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,212 ✭✭✭✭ loyatemu


    that's not a good thing, Moore looked way too old in his last few films, and Craig was looking very old in NTTD as well.

    Moore also knocked out 7 movies in 12 years, whereas they're producing them at a much slower rate now, younger man required.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭ CastorTroy


    Any reason not to go with Richard Madden? He would be known but not really famous. 35 years old.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,227 ✭✭✭✭ ArmaniJeanss


    Moore had 3 under his belt by Idris's current age - though in fairness I think it was only by Octopussy and AVTAK that he was clearly too old.

    Brosnan had his four done by aged 50, and Dalton his two by 44.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ EltonJohn69


    They need to shake bond up….. the franchise is very tired…..



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Eternals probably helped his Hollywood clout; so he's probably the right point in his career to take something like Bond. He'd be a very safe, rote choice though TBH and if there's a genuine intent to shake things up with the franchise - I can't see him being top of the charts for consideration.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭ conorhal


    I didn't know Cavill had tested for the role, I think they made huge mistake passing on him. CR starts with Bond as a newly minted double-oh and then a mere two movies later he's already an over the hill crock, no doubt a product of Craig aging like fine milk and becoming hard to distingush from Judy Dench when they share scenes together in the later films....

    If they had gone with Cavill we could have had a lot more of Bond as a fresh faced newbie finding his feet in the spy game and earing his rep.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭ Wedwood


    Apart from the actor, the tone of the new movies is just as important. Apart from the legal issues that delayed and ultimately scuppered Dalton’s third movie, audiences at the time did not really take to Licence to Kill and its more serious take on Bond. Before Brosnan arrived, it was more or less assumed the Bond series was over, along with the Cold War which was the backdrop to many of the movies. It was only when Craig’s era arrived that LTK was re-evaluated as a movie ahead of its time.

    Goldeneye was seen at the time as a risky attempt to restart the character for a post Cold War generation. The return to a lighter tone was welcomed by audiences. The next movie/actor will have as much riding on their shoulders to show Bond is still a relevant character for modern audiences.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ EltonJohn69


    Goldeneye and Casino Royale both the best Bonds of each actor. Both the most serious…. Serious = Good….. unless Bond is played by Roger Moore



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭ FunLover18


    I think Spectre and NTTD are proof that serious doesn't always equal good, both went for a very serious tone however their plots were completely ridiculous and fall apart at the smallest bit of examination. I think grounded would be a much better word for the the reason behind CR's success, there was no over the top plot to take over the world, he was just trying to weaken the position of someone who could be turned into an informant. The stakes were low and the personal arc with a subplot. Later Craig era films, raised the stakes significantly and tried to incorporate the Bond's personal journey directly into the plot.

    Haven't seen Goldeneye in years but whilst it's serious, it has its tongue very firmly in its cheeks that was similar to Connery. I liked Craig in the early films but his Bond became far too earnest and I still think turning Bond into a family man was a bigger mistake than killing him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ EltonJohn69


    Goldeneye was a bit of a farce but compared to the later Brosnans it was Mucho Mucho serious.

    You make a good point that casino Royale was good because it was smaller and not about taking over the world. I think that’s the way forward for Bond. No base full of henchmen and posion flowers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭ BattleCorp1


    Go back to having cool gadgets like Roger Moore used to get to play with.

    My vote would be for Henry Cavill.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 27,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭ pixelburp


    Even that has seen its time pass IMO. As Spectre winked at when Bond got a gun & a radio: what's special about spy gadgets in an era when many/most people on the street have a smart phone? The Huawei in front of me makes most Bond gadgets look stone age, and it's not a top of the line or anything - that's just what passes for modern tech.



  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭ Wedwood


    Apart from Brosnan’s invisible car, the most outlandish gadgets were perhaps Roger Moore’s laser/magnet watches. The exotic vehicles were usually real (mini helicopters/planes etc). The rest were espionage items like suitcases with hidden weapons etc. The Bond car weapons were far fetched but just about believable.

    NTTD’s villain with the bionic eye was a ‘jump the shark’ moment for me. Also, the magical Spectre mist that protects Bond while everyone else in the room gets poisoned. How did Blofeld know he’d get Bond to stand in that exact spot long enough to stay alive?. How did the poison air not just drift into the magic mist? …… oh I give up !! It’s more like something you’d see in Austin Powers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,715 ✭✭✭ Chinese whospers


    Unless I'm misremembering everyone died because their DNA was targeted, but Bonds wasn't in the mix and so wasn't targeted at that time.

    I’m in love with him and I feel fine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭ Wedwood


    Maybe so, then why did he need the mist to stay alive?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,872 ✭✭✭ EltonJohn69


    Confirmed: Gene Hackman has won the role of James Bond. A screen test and producer meeting was done last week. Official announcement Monday.



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