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  • 25-07-2017 3:15pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    Thought it'd be worth setting up a thread for this.

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    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/james-bond-25-sets-2019-release-date-1023977

    Confirmed release date but as of yet no title, cast, or director. Rumours (such as they are) suggest that Daniel Craig will return. It will be written by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade, the duo who handled the scripts for Casino Royale, Quantum of Solace, Skyfall and Spectre.

    Apparently Christopher Nolan is top of the list for director.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,667 ✭✭✭✭ Tony EH


    Hopefully, it'll provide some redemption after the woeful 'Spectre'. The reboot series was doing very well and Craig is probably the best Bond since Connery. But, they seriously lost their way with the last picture.

    The ingredients are all there, it just needs a good script and a little restraint perhaps.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,517 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Sad Professor


    Apparently Christopher Nolan is top of the list for director.

    Haven't seen any reliable sources claim this. Last I heard Paul McGuigan (a tv director who has done a few episodes of Sherlock) was the frontrunner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭ fluke


    I'm much more interested if it's like this:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭ El Rifle


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Hopefully, it'll provide some redemption after the woeful 'Spectre'. The reboot series was doing very well and Craig is probably the best Bond since Connery. But, they seriously lost their way with the last picture.

    The ingredients are all there, it just needs a good script and a little restraint perhaps.

    I thought the last two films were woeful with the previous having a half hour final scene that had been done far superior in a half dozen episodes of the A-Team


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭ sham69


    Have to be honest I only enjoyed Casino Royale out of all the Craig ones.
    It had everything , and that opening scene, wow..
    He's good as bond but I just don't think the movies have been great.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,667 ✭✭✭✭ Tony EH


    Compared to the previous 20 years of Bond films, they're classics.

    Have to say, I'm not a Bond fan, though, even though I've seen them all at least once.

    I've largely enjoyed Craig's outings. However, I felt that the absurdly named 'Quantum of Solace' was under developed and 'Skyfall' was over long. But, they were still relatively entertaining.

    'Spectre', on the other hand, jettisoned everything that was good about the previous entries and went back to try and channel old fashioned bond cliches and ended up just being too silly.

    All being equal, I agree, 'Casino Royale' is the best of the Craig Bond's. Largely because it refrains in going over the top.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    I found Casino Royale to be a bit disjointed when I went back to it, and QoS was all over the place. I might have to give it another go though.

    Skyfall, for all it's plot flaws, was just so stylish. It looked cool, it sounded cool, had some great exchanges, set pieces, shots, music, and had an overall great feel which for me overrode any of the other negative points (e.g. the extreme coincidences that had to happen for de Silva's plan to work, the Scottish set piece). I loved how it was set in London, chase through the tube etc, felt really real and close to home (every time I take the Tube I want to slide down the dividers on the escalators - only you can't, there's blocks in the way :)).

    Spectre had a bit of that, but it was like Skyfall 2.0 mixed with some classic Bond tropes. Blofeld was set up very well (face darkened, only speaking in whispers) but his big reveal as Blofeld meant nothing as he had never been referred to before in Craig's series. It had a similar sense of style and was certainly a nice way to spend two hours, which is what you want really.

    But where can Craig take it now - if it is to be Craig. What can this movie deliver? What can it build on? Smaller, and more close fighting style? Bigger, with even more lavish sets and huge explosions?


  • Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭ Telecaster58


    El Rifle wrote: »
    I thought the last two films were woeful with the previous having a half hour final scene that had been done far superior in a half dozen episodes of the A-Team

    Well said. I thought I was a minority of one on this score. Spectre was a really abysmal entry in the canon. As for Skyfall, the only redeeming feature was the title song!


  • Registered Users Posts: 75,444 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1


    Denis Villeneuve also linked for the director's chair, interesting choice


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  • Registered Users Posts: 515 ✭✭✭ Telecaster58


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Denis Villeneuve also linked for the director's chair, interesting choice

    That would be interesting. However, I remember a number of years ago Quentin Tarantino offering his services for a Bond film. Now that would be worth watching.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,517 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Sad Professor


    Yann Demange is the current frontrunner to direct according to Variety.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,447 ✭✭✭✭ expectationlost


    Daniel Craig has nothing else to do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 75,444 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1


    David Harbour and Rainn Wilson putting their names forward to play villain


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭ Wedwood


    Have collected all the Bond movies over the years, Craig's are the ones I don't really put into the Bluray player. While Casino Royale and Skyfall are decent enough, watching 2+ hours of Craig frowning isn't something you want to watch over again. Can't say I'm particularly looking forward to another epic Craig glumfest.

    Some possible titles:
    Gloomfinger
    Moanraker
    Dour Another Day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,086 ✭✭✭✭ Harry Palmr


    Brexit Bond! This film will be released after the UK leaves the EU (assuming it all goes to plan which it may well not) so I wonder if the writers are going to work in something to reference that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭ fluke


    Wedwood wrote: »

    Some possible titles:
    Gloomfinger
    Moanraker
    Dour Another Day

    Craigslist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭ El Rifle


    Wedwood wrote: »
    Have collected all the Bond movies over the years, Craig's are the ones I don't really put into the Bluray player. While Casino Royale and Skyfall are decent enough, watching 2+ hours of Craig frowning isn't something you want to watch over again. Can't say I'm particularly looking forward to another epic Craig glumfest.

    Some possible titles:
    Gloomfinger
    Moanraker
    Dour Another Day

    They need to send him out to the tropics, give him a few decent birds, let him do a bit of gambling and have a few cocktails. A rested and entertained bond is a much happier bond!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    El Rifle wrote: »
    They need to send him out to the tropics, give him a few decent birds, let him do a bit of gambling and have a few cocktails. A rested and entertained bond is a much happier bond!

    That's what the book of Dr No set him out to do!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭ GhostyMcGhost


    El Rifle wrote: »
    I thought the last two films were woeful with the previous having a half hour final scene that had been done far superior in a half dozen episodes of the A-Team

    generally goes

    Casino Royale (good)
    QOS (bad)
    Skyfall (good)
    Spectre (bad)

    Have high hopes for the next one....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    Spectre wasn't "bad" though. It was just flawed / could've been done better. Die Another Day was "bad".


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban




  • Registered Users Posts: 16,667 ✭✭✭✭ Tony EH


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,961 ✭✭✭✭ boneyarsebogman


    I personally would hate to see a Quentin Tarantino Bond movie.


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭ Wedwood


    Don't read that wiki site, major potential spoilers - you've been warned !!

    Re directors - Don't think I'd fancy Tarantino - Bond in the style of a spaghetti western - yeugh!

    Would like any of these though unlikely:
    Christopher Nolan - he can do no wrong at the moment
    JJ Abrams - the master rebooter- plus we'd get a Michael Giacchino Bond score


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭ Kunkka


    Die Another Day was "bad".

    Bad is an understatement.... lets pretend it never happened.

    I honestly didn't think Spectre was that bad, not as good as Casino Royale or Skyfall but was a decent Bond. I do agree that they don't need to keep referring back to old Bond references as it didn't work in Spectre. Craig and Nolan would be perfect combo for the next Bond, wouldn't be happy with Tarantino doing one either.

    I re-watched all of the Bonds a year or so ago, was it just me or do the Roger Moore ones really not stand up at all? It was sad for me as Moore was my favourite Bond as a kid :( . Goldfinger is still an absolute classic and stands out as the best of the whole lot.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 17,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭ The Black Oil


    Craig has confirmed Bond 25 will be his last. Source


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,020 ✭✭✭ eviltimeban


    Craig has confirmed Bond 25 will be his last. Source

    Woot (not about being his last, just that he's doing it)!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,753 ✭✭✭✭ dastardly00


    Kunkka wrote: »
    I re-watched all of the Bonds a year or so ago, was it just me or do the Roger Moore ones really not stand up at all? It was sad for me as Moore was my favourite Bond as a kid :( . Goldfinger is still an absolute classic and stands out as the best of the whole lot.

    Moore was my favourite growing up as well (not sure why). But looking at his movies now, some are absolutely awful with some very cringey scenes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,368 ✭✭✭ AllForIt


    I though Casino Royal was pretty good, well the best one for years in fact after all those dire Brosnon movies. How disappointing was that - I though Brosnon was going to be the best bond ever. Well he could have been if the script wasn't so poor or the movies so low budget. That invisible car thing was just cringe. Anyhoo Skyfall for me was totally in a different league and I love the score by Thomas Newman which he composed again for in Spectre. I didn't think Spectre was as bad as some made out, I liked it and wasn't expecting it to be as good as Skyfall. It's a pity Mendez is not directing another but I hope the next one is of the same style of the last 2.


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