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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You guys are all doom talking about continued and more restriction, telling us all before Christmas that we would be locked down until the summer, while what Omicron has actually done is bring us to the endemic phase this spring, exactly as I predicted. The unwinding of the testing regime has already begun. Its over. A few of you will still be on your self made remote pacific island fighting the "war" years after everyone is back to normal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Gaslighting. "I never said all those things, in fact whats happening now is exactly what I predicted."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    More revisionism this morning I see.

    It's like how when Government caught everyone off guard last year by easing restrictions unexpectedly, people like yourself were on here telling us it was all part of the plan.

    In the same way as we were told we had to wait and see what Omicron would do here despite posters posting evidence that it was mild elsewhere, now you're claiming that this was always the plan.

    If we actually get to the point of lifting ALL the restrictions (including masks and distancing recommendations) by late Spring/Summer then it'll be long overdue (but still a concern how easily and with how little justification or resistance the politicians have been able to prolong the restrictions and delay their full removal), but let's not pretend that you've been predicting this all along.

    As for the nonsense analogy at the end, I suggest you actually look up what PTSD is before you belittle it because there will be a lot of ongoing mental health issues among people who were genuinely terrified by the constant negative and one-sided coverage of this "crisis" over the last 2 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,252 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    None of that talks about an unwinding of restrictions in Spring 22. All it does is repeat things that were known since the start - that viruses like this eventually burn themselves out to where the risk is minimal for the overwhelming majority of people, like say influenza.

    The difference is we knew that to be the case with Covid by summer 2020 and should have adapted and targeted our responses accordingly, but yet we dragged it out another 18 months (and still counting).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Yes, you have indeed been calling people doom mongers and whingers for nearly 2 years now.

    But thats rather the point. Everything ends, so if you keep repeating it for 2 years then eventually you were going to finally be correct at some point.

    But it will be rather a hollow victory considering how often you were badly wrong in the meantime.

    All very predictable though, if there has been one constant here it has been the gaslighting.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    One constant from yourself is a complete misunderstanding of the term "gaslighting"

    I never claimed to be able to foretell and exact date it would end but:

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    And there is more:

    Jan 21

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    And I never argued for "Zero Covid", continued restrictions or any of the other accusations all you guys level at me because I dare to challenge the thread shibboleths

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭choronzonix


    Lad you ae completely deluded if you really think that culture is still 'ticking away'. From my own personal experience, I bought a total of 5 tickets for 5 separate gigs last year. Every single one of them was either postponed to late 2022 or cancelled outright. I haven't been to a gig in almost 3 years, it is the main cultural output that I enjoy. I bought tickets to bring the kids to a panto in late November - that was of course cancelled as well. How many months of rehearsals and effort must the performers and organisers of even that small event (it wasn't even one of the big ones in Dublin) have undergone only to be forced to cancel because of the general levels of hysteria and 'caution' that were being generated by Holohan and Co around that time?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Yeah, two of the ones on my list for this year have been postponed twice already. I just don't see culture as solely about gigs. Gigs did happen though, just not the ones you had tickets for...so I stand by my statement.

    ...and by that I mean, "ticking along" not "ticking along nicely" as I was misquoted by Bucky.

    Post edited by Penfailed on

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,949 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    3years?

    I'm the same as yourself missing the gigs. Tbf I got out to lots in 2021 and it was great. But seems so strange that in November I was at packed venues with Delta, yet here we are in January with Omicron and just seeing things being cancelled again. And not just in Ireland. And this seems to be with a positive outlook regarding Omicron from all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,102 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    So a lot to digest with recent developments.

    I said earlier I was a little perplexed at this notion of people being asked to upload antigen test results and close contact details .

    Clearly now its been confirmed that by doing so is just a public health exercise and basically glosses over the collapse of the PCR testing system , why I wonder does the CMO of government think people will bother their arses.

    More intriguing, is its also been confirmed people will need an official , confirmed PCR or antigen test to get a covid recovery cert and of course at their expense, this doesn't include the cost of a GP issuing said certs.

    Then we have "Reassuring " news of reducing cases 😳, so this then leads to my next question.

    How the feck does the CMO actually know this , there's very little PCR testing occuring, by all accounts, this new system for uploading positive antigen tests has only gone live and as I've said, who is going to bother their arse using it.

    Perhaps I'm completely wrong but this turn of events , utterly bizzare .

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    I was busy enough trying to keep people right about different words such as lockdown and curfew and eradicating and destroying that I didn't need to add gaslighting to the list...

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,102 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Ronan Glynn joining Scare Byrne for a chat now 🤔

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Quags




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭deholleboom


    For all you chronic back and forth posters pretending to be in some sort of court, attacking and defending with whatever argument you think will put you in a winning position: in the end there is NO JUDGE. There will be no reckoning, no end result, no system to determine who won or lost. You are simply doing this for your own gratification. You are helping no one and annoying many. So: stop doing that, please.

    Caveat: i only come across posts in quoted form now but they indicate what i highlighted.I have many on 'ignore' and those grey posts are filling up my screen more and more.🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Quags




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos



    This is great to see!!, and Wales too have jumped on board with this, after slamming England and their approach.. this is such positive news to see. Really hope this rolls out here too..

    ''There was always a very high threshold for the policy and it looks increasingly likely in a couple of weeks that threshold won't be met. The way cases are going it will be hard to justify renewing'' I found this interesting. I think we would all love to know what parameters/ justifications they had to implement many of the restrictions.

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    They now need to reverse out of their utterly shameful decision to fire care and NHS workers who are unvaccinated.

    This is not an anti vaxx post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Everyone is entitled to an opinion and to debate their points however they see fit. There are no judges yet here you are, judging. Stop doing that please. (See how this works?)

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭BuildTheWall


    He should have just bought tickets to the ones that didn’t get postponed then he would have been fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    This wasn't as clever as you think it was the first time you did it. Less so now.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Quags




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,611 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Someone put a tweet in earlier saying people with Omnicron needing a ventilator is 0



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭celt262


    If they have no symptoms what are they doing in hospital?

    Are they just people in with other health problems who just happen to be covid positive?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,609 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Yes but omicron8+ could be much more deadly - thankfully it only does the rounds after 8pm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭A Shaved Duck?


    42% of people on ventilators are unvaccinated, at what point do the government look at these numbers objectively and start rowing back on the restrictions.

    At what point do the 95% of the population stop being punished for a group of people that get their medical expertise from facebook.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭TalleyRand83


    There is plenty of "Wales" here and a few "Englands". Watch the tone changing, I can already see it over the last few days.

    The "eh 30% maybe aren't being treated for Covid" by Tony was probably the first gulp moment!



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