Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Don't Chute! · 13-01-2022 07:48PM

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Jesus fcuking Christ! Why would he!!?

astrofool · 13-01-2022 07:59PM

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I don't think that would be the reason, they could have continued existing as was, same as Moderna and Janssen, and not gone for full approval, I guess Europe leads the way in this area and everyone was giving out about the EMA being too slow :)

Hey boy · 13-01-2022 07:59PM

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I’m wondering what normal life was like for you before covid if that is truly what you think.

I remember, for example, at one stage something like 13 beaches in Donegal were closed to the public due to covid!

You must love the restrictions - good for you but some of the rest of us want to move on. You can choose to continue mask wearing, not going out to pubs after 8pm etc if you want.

You do remember having the freedom to choose I hope.

Don't Chute! · 13-01-2022 08:05PM

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Because Martin is supposed to be in charge of the country. Because he’s the reason we never opened up fully last summer. Because he’s the one that came up with the ludicrous decision to say we would open up at the end of October at the start of the flu season. Because he’s supposed to be in charge of a country that has almost everybody double vaccinated and boosted and we are STILL under ridiculous fcuking restrictions. And most importantly of all in my opinion he is the man who has given the keys to the country to an unelected fanatic who seems to be hell bent on destroying certain areas of Irish society. THATS why.

PTH2009 · 13-01-2022 08:07PM

Yep agree with that let people decide for themselves

Stay inside if you don't feel safe etc

MOR316 · 13-01-2022 08:07PM

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No St. Patrick's Day for two years in a row; Last year, at the request of NPHET/Tony Holohan, Gardai set up check points at bus stations and train stations to stop people from going outside the 5km radius.

Making you choose between having your freedom or not over a vaccine, your medical business, which last time I checked was ethically wrong. Possibly legally too but, everyone is afraid to challenge that narrative (Except the people who got caught going outside the 5km. They challenged it and it was rightfully dropped for legal reasons!)

Not allowed go to work. Been made to work from home for 2 years

No music in pubs, bars or venues. Loads of artists, performers and musicians, that the country is renowned for, put out of work and left penniless.

The pub culture, practically destroyed.

Tony Holohan taking to Twitter to pour scorn on those drinking take away drinks on South Williamt St, people who weren't causing trouble, only for the Gardai to arrive over the following days to conduct violent methods and thus attract scummy trouble makers to the area...

Tourist attractions and places of interest around the city, mostly shut down for the majority of the last two years.

The match going GAA experience completely destroyed.

A Government the people never elected running the show, but hiding behind an unelected medical civil servant, with a suspect past, thus basically **** on the idea of a "democracy" we're supposed to have in this country

I mean, would you like me to go on? It's very easy for you because you are allowed in your local pub without a vaccine or pass and you can shoot over the boarder any time you wish for gigs, sessions and meeting up with friends. Unfortunately, your whole "well I'm alright therefore the rest of you should stop complaining" mindset and approach to posting, doesn't work for people who are not in the same boat as you

astrofool · 13-01-2022 08:13PM

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Ah, dug in a bit more and it was a Robert Malone (Malone even admitted he got it wrong and withdrew the statement) interview and facebook posts 🤨

The false claim that the fully-approved Pfizer vaccine lacks liability protection - The Washington Post

@ceadaoin. stop being duped!

follow up that liability in the US doesn't change from emergency to full approval due to the existence of the PREP act:

“The liability protections afforded under the PREP Act are tied to the declared public health emergency and not whether the vaccine is sold under an EUA,” Castillo said. “Therefore, both Comirnaty and the Pfizer-BioNTech covid-19 vaccine receive the same liability protections as medical countermeasures against covid-19.”

“There are no liability or compensation differences between a countermeasure approved under an EUA or one that has received full FDA approval,” confirmed an HHS spokesperson.

Don't Chute! · 13-01-2022 08:14PM

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Penfailed has stated before that he can go a whole week without being restricted so he doesn’t give a **** that other people are restricted.

Obviously he will now spend the next day or two denying that he said that, but he did.

Penfailed · 13-01-2022 08:24PM

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There were only two beaches closed that I am aware of. There may have been more closed than that. I really don't care because there were many more open than closed. I have moved on. I detest the restrictions but my culture hasn't been eradicated and my way of life hasn't been decimated. Pubs closed at 8pm? House parties and shebeens. Normality will return.

Hey boy · 13-01-2022 08:24PM

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And according to some if you aren’t enthusiastic about every aspect of the covid theatre (ref Lord Frost on Planet Normal podcast - which is not anti vaxx in case mods take this reference down) you are selfish.

Penfailed · 13-01-2022 08:26PM

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To sum up, you think our culture revolves around pubs and drinking. How very sad.

Penfailed · 13-01-2022 08:31PM

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Oh, you as well. Go on, show me where I said that I can go a whole week without being restricted. You can't because I didn't. I do give a ****...but my culture hasn't been destroyed and my way of life hasn't been decimated.

Just to clear up for once and for all what was actually said - someone posted hyperbole stating that restrictions have effected EVERY aspect of our lives. I replied to say that they haven't effected EVERY aspect of our lives and that I could, in fact, go for days without them effecting me in any way. Sin é.

Breaston Plants · 13-01-2022 08:32PM

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What's the craic with the list of gigs on your posts?

MOR316 · 13-01-2022 08:34PM

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Blatantly ignoring where I mentioned places of interest, eating out, public celebrations, tourism and music and the arts.

OK...Enjoy your next trip over the boarder for pints, where you abandon your own culture

MOR316 · 13-01-2022 08:36PM

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Rub it into people's faces...

"Look at what I'm doing that you're not because I go across the boarder, unlike you lot!"

c montgomery · 13-01-2022 08:42PM

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People are afraid to visit relatives out of fear of giving them covid. Elderly are living in more isolation than before because of covid. Social gathering are nothing like before, most are gone.

Ways of life have changed massively for many

bucketybuck · 13-01-2022 08:42PM

All of those bands, singers, artists, actors, all of those creative types thrown on the bonfire for two years by the middle aged work from home crowd.

Yes I am sure we are going to have some culture alright, they will all just pick up where they left off, no bother.

Hopefully some of those children they also threw on the bonfire will be able to develop and contribute to culture in years to come. Thats if the ****** in charge ever let them live of course.

walus · 13-01-2022 08:43PM

Since when is Tony a ‘government figure’?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-cautiously-optimistic-on-further-easing-of-restrictions-1.4775020?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fgovernment-cautiously-optimistic-on-further-easing-of-restrictions-1.4775020

Government cautiously optimistic - and Tony’s head in the picture. You have to laugh at this stage.

brickster69 · 13-01-2022 08:44PM

MEP's press conference today. Shocking stuff what is going on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqbsJljdxJs&feature=youtu.be

growleaves · 13-01-2022 08:53PM

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No he mentioned artists performers and musicians - which covers theatre, opera, pantomime, classical music recitals, comedy, street performer festivals

He mentioned sports - GAA but of course all sports are affected. Couldn't even train for a team sport during many highly-restricted periods due to isolation rules.

He mentioned tourism - need I produce a big list of tourist attractions..? No one can start or maintain a tourist business because they never know when they'll have access to customers.

Yes drinking is on the list as well, and why not there's nothing wrong with it. It encompasses a big part of the dating scene, the music scene, the tourist experience, after match drinks or meeting your friends to hang out. Wine and conversation in cocktail bars.

To maintain this nullification we have to swallow all kinds of fudged statistics, rationales for extended closures which make no sense and real economic activity (trade) is replaced with monetary stimulus which while it might not lead to economic collapse is neither harm-less nor preferable.

ceadaoin. · 13-01-2022 09:10PM

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It's nothing to do with Robert malone! He is just the latest person to say this. Yes technically you can get compensation from the government but this is rarely granted

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html

“The liability protections afforded under the PREP Act are tied to the declared public health emergency and not whether the vaccine is sold under an EUA,” Castillo said. “Therefore, both Comirnaty and the Pfizer-BioNTech covid-19 vaccine receive the same liability protections as medical countermeasures against covid-19.”

So Pfizer etc aren't liable for vaccine injuries then, whether it's approved or not, as long as a public health emergency is in place(which it is)? So no need for the brand name fuckery then, they are covered either way? Thanks for clearing that up.

lawred2 · 13-01-2022 09:13PM

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Many of us remember

walus · 13-01-2022 09:15PM

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What the last guy in this video says can possibly help people understand what those from behind the ‘iron curtain’ think about all this. Freedom is as air and water, necessary to live. Period. And those from the eastern block fought for it the hard way. They know to resist early, because if they don’t soon there will no one who will be able to resist.