Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

AlekSmart

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118465397#Comment_118465397

I would suggest that NPHET/Government policy right now is to ensure that the current Pandemic status is maintained for as long as can be.

The possibility of Omicron not performing up to the standard of Delta or whatever simply cannot be countenanced.

The reality of this VERY disturbing situation is being seen across Western Europe,as some of the oldest and most stable democracies in the World,vie with each other to be the most draconian in INCREASING their Covid response in inverse proportion to the actual current seriousness of Covid infections.

It is very obviously a deviant form of governance,totally off the scale of moderation.

The Pandemic threat subsided in mid 2020,if it ever really was a threat at all.

All that followed,and now remains was Socio-Political experimentation allied to a form of administrative lunacy perhaps best typified in current Australian events.

It appears that a significant number of people no longer view individual freedoms as anything of worth...at all 😲

THAT is the current Pandemic !

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469716#Comment_118469716

Could you consider getting out of your own head for just one second and thinking about how it affects people who are not you personally, before you make sweeping judgments about how everything is grand?

Like, imagine an older couple in a rural village with no car. Maybe they don't drink that much, but they go the local pubs a few times a week, once for dinner, once for a live music show, once for a quiz. Other than that, they don't really go anywhere.

Do you see how their way of life is:

1: Completely **** valid, regardless of condescending pricks on Boards dot ie, and

2: Completely decimated by restrictions.

Like it's bad enough that you pull this **** repeatedly, but then you have the audacity to throw yourself a little pity party and pretend you're being picked on when people point out that you seem to have an inordinate amount of trouble seeing past the end of your own nose or imagining anything outside of your own experience.

c montgomery

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470089#Comment_118470089

Maybe for you and people In your social bubble. Count yourself lucky.

You clearly can't see any viewpoint than your own.

I'll give you a rundown of just the past few months for us shall I?

Father, musician, out of work again due to 8pm closing

No Christmas concert for the kids drama/dance classes

No visiting relatives for fears of covid

No family celebrations for birthdays/anniversary /Xmas outside of household

No bingo/dancing/socialising for grandparents,basically stuck in their house outside of a daily walk where they don't talk to anyone.

No foreign travel due to the hassle of it

Masks/certs/ etc etc......

Loads more

But ya everything's grand

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470130#Comment_118470130

On hold for two years (and counting), not ticking away. Varadkar/Martin already said there would be restrictions until mid-decade with "pockets of freedom". This year we will have mid-summer off it looks like - a few weeks or, at best, months.

Until mid-decade can become until end-of-decade.

When something is put on hold for years with talk of it being put on hold for many more years its being suppressed. There's a sliver of deniability because someone will occasionally use the word 'temporary' or say 'we don't know'.

Irish people don't object, just make excuses and get angry at people who want restrictions ended or don't go along with some rule due to paternalism (Daddy Varaddy knows best) and demoralisation, which is total.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470130#Comment_118470130

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470208#Comment_118470208

Have a little think about it there.

MilkyToast

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470274#Comment_118470274

Irish people don't object,

But if it's that long, many will move, people will stop coming here, people will stop wanting to live here, and the giant tech companies that have kept our economy afloat while SMEs have been sacrificed on the Covid altar will go elsewhere to attract talent.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470237#Comment_118470237

How about you actually think about the post I was responding to? "If we're not afraid then why have we eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life?" 'We' haven't eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life. Most people have adapted and are getting on with things. Some people have had more disruption than others. The thing is, it will all return. I understand that the poster I quoted thinks some of this is permanent. I don't. Yis are full of doom. I'm not.

SEPT 23 1989

The people have now moved on the politicians scientists and media are completely out of step

they lost whatever power they had over Christmas when they went on holiday and we as a people didn’t have to listen to them anymore and had time to think

when they returned their empty threats just seemed silly

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470242#Comment_118470242

Look...this misunderstanding is on you. I didn't and haven't said everything is grand. I just don't accept hyperbole like, "...why have we eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life?" This isn't black and white. There are many shades of grey.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470274#Comment_118470274

So you don't think we've eradicated our culture and destroyed our way of life? Why did you post it in the first place then?

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470277#Comment_118470277

Oh, you're attempting a 'Gotcha!' Forgive me for not taking you on.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470353#Comment_118470353

I do think that. Our culture and way of life have been totally-suppressed. That suppression isn't going to be reversed by the Government they've basically said, and the people don't object to this indefinite suppression, therefore its effectively gone - eradicated by choice.

The new life of internet interactions, TV-watching every night, hyper-atomisation, hidden social gatherings, closed businesses no longer viable is the pale shadow of the former life people had.

@ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469650#Comment_118469650

@ceadaoin. parroting misinformation without choosing to inform themselves, surely not.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470389#Comment_118470389

Suppressed =\= Eradicated/Destroyed.

Look, I know you think that this won't end and I can see how thinking that would make you feel like it has been eradicated and destroyed. Let me try to reassure you...things are and things will get better.

I see this place as a study in how doomsday cults emerge.

Our culture and way of life eradicated and destroyed. Mustn’t have had very much to start with if you believe that to be the case.

For those of us who don’t live in Jonestown, the return to normal will be fairly rapid while you guys are all frothing about any mention of Covid.

growleaves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470548#Comment_118470548

I concede that its at least possible the former life could come back again but remain completely pessimistic. I'd better leave it there, I'm not trying to sink morale any worse than it is.

Derkaiser93

I remember a close friend of mine advising me never to go onto this forum years ago. "Don't go on boards , that place would turn you schizo ". Couldn't have been more accurate.

Absolute cesspit of paranoid, bitter, angry and selt indulgent individuals.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470635#Comment_118470635

Fair play.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470371#Comment_118470371

A gotcha? No. Just a classic example of Pen failed logic.

"Irish culture is fine, ticking long nicely"

2 mins later...

"No I haven't been to any gigs in Ireland, I had to go up North to see a band, why do you ask?"

It takes a staggering lack of awareness not to see the connection there. Still, not surprising.

BuildTheWall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469825#Comment_118469825

Find it abhorrent that the destiny of our great nation is being held to ransom by a faceless bureaucrat like Holohan.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470736#Comment_118470736

Tbf you didn't have to go up north to see all those bands.

BuildTheWall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470208#Comment_118470208

No, but if I remember correctly you were strongly supportive of the government not allowing gigs but at the same time were quite happy to zoom across the border to see as many gigs as you could.

lee_baby_simms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470798#Comment_118470798

You do if you don’t have a covid cert.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470798#Comment_118470798

Did they perform in front of the sheep pens?

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470842#Comment_118470842

Nope.

BuildTheWall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470702#Comment_118470702

Why you here so?

niallo27

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470617#Comment_118470617

Your a classic example of a cult member, everything is normal, nothing is different. Do not question the leader.

BuildTheWall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470617#Comment_118470617

Bit rich coming from someone who spends all day defending the covid narrative on an Internet forum.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470736#Comment_118470736

I'm one of those people that thinks 'up North' is still Ireland. I don't have a partitionist mindset in that regard.

Anyway, the fact that there aren't enough characters allowed in the signature to list all the bands/artists that I've seen including the ones in 'the south' that are omitted won't stop you.

Oh, and to correct you, yet again, I didn't say Irish culture is fine, ticking along nicely. Stop misquoting what I actually say. It makes you look foolish trying to twist things to suit your narrative.

Bucky logic - Ireland are a nation of cowards (including Bucky).

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470702#Comment_118470702

Yet...here you are.